If China and Russia are so buddy-buddy now, why don’t they build pipelines across Siberia to bypass the Persian Gulf?

There are more issues than I can cover in this video, but here are a couple. Their recent cooperation is less of a friendship and more of a “the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend” situation. Geography is the bigger problem, though, with thousands of miles separating Russian energy sources and Chinese population centers.

Even if a pipeline plan was put in place, neither side would want to pay for it, and Russia wouldn’t have the technical expertise to develop it. So, unless maritime shipping goes completely offline, this pipeline isn’t happening.

Transcript

Hey everybody, Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from Middle Chain Lake in southeastern Yosemite. This is one of my favorite places in the national park system. We’re just going to pan around from time to time as I’m doing this video. Have it all to myself. Anyway. 

Today we’re taking a question from the Patreon crowd. Specifically, if China and Russia love each other so much, why don’t they just build a pipeline or cluster of pipelines connecting them to one another and not have to worry about the Persian Gulf at all? 

Great question. Let’s start by saying that the Chinese and the Russians do not love each other very much. They are arguably two of the most racist cultures in the world, and the culture that they’re most racist against is one another. The Chinese see the Russians as backwards barbarians, and the Russians see the Chinese as peasants. So any sort of collaboration they have is in reaction to other things, not because they actually like one another. That’s part one. 

Part two. It’s simple geography. It’s a distance issue. The population of Russia, for the most part, is hard up on the European boundary, and the bulk of the Chinese population is within spitting distance of the Pacific coast, which leaves something like 7 to 8000 miles of great wide open empty in between. Now, if you want to have a pipe, you’re going to have pumping stations, and that’s already a very long way to go. So if you go in from European Russia to Asiatic China, you’re already talking about pumping costs that are well over $80 a gallon. Most likely, that’s on top of the tens of billions of dollars that it would take to actually build the pipeline. That’s number two. 

Number three, the oil and natural gas that the Russians have is, for the most part, in the wrong place. It’s almost all in northwestern Siberia, which is actually further from China than European Russia. So it’s easier to do, say, a rail line going to China than it is a pipeline. And so the eastern and Western networks for the Russian energy distribution system just don’t connect. There’s like one spot and it’s pretty small. So whenever the Russians go, oh, we’re just going to send our oil and gas somewhere else and not to Europe, it’s mostly bullshit because they just don’t have the capacity to do so in large volumes. 

That brings us to the final point, is that there are a few fields going out into Asiatic Siberia, places like Kovykta which is just to the northeast of Kazakhstan, and places like Sakhalin Island, which is just to the north of Japan. These are places where the conversation isn’t silly. The distance is only, you know, a thousand miles or so, as opposed to going all the way across the continent.   

The problem here is that the Russians don’t have the technical skill that’s necessary to tap these fields. And so in the case of Kovykta, that was a BP project. And when BP was basically shown the door a few years ago, it stalled. And in the case of Sakhalin, not only did the Japanese kind of call dibs on that output, but it takes super majors like Exxon or BP or Japanese firms, most of which are now gone because of the war, in order to keep the output going. So it just doesn’t justify anything. 

Whenever Putin and Xi get together, the conversation always is, hey, let’s do a pipeline. And they both always say, yeah, hey, that sounds great. And then they both point at the other one, say, and you pay for it. The Chinese see no reason to pay for infrastructure that is going to cost so much to operate. And the Russians see no point in paying for infrastructure that will benefit the Chinese. So we just get these stalled statements and no real motion. And this is how it’s been going for the better part of the last 30 years now.  

Now, if you change the circumstances, if you remove maritime transport altogether, then all of a sudden we’re having a different conversation. But that doesn’t make the project any cheaper. So you’re still talking about tens of billions of dollars to get the infrastructure in the ground, and then a transit costs that is about the same as prices are right now. So you’re talking about a very nasty change in circumstances if that’s how you want to go. All right. That’s it for me for today. Take care.

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