I recently had the pleasure of joining Eurasia Group founder Ian Bremmer on Sam Harris’ podcast, Making Sense. We discussed my new book The End of the World is Just the Beginning and had a wide-ranging conversation on a variety of issues from demography and population collapse to the war in Ukraine, the differing fates of China and the United States, and other topics I think my subscribers would enjoy.

More info on how to listen below.

LISTEN TO MAKING SENSE EPISODE #288 – THE END OF GLOBAL ORDER

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