The Fire Hose of Chaos: Wait, The Recession Is Already Here?

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What could have happened much, much further down the road (or even avoided given the right circumstances) is now in the headlines – the US is headed into a recession. And if you wanted to send a thank you card to someone, you could send it to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and address it to the Trump administration.

Between the unpredictable tariffs and constantly evolving regulatory shifts, this recession seems like it was part of the “plan” all along. The four big contributors are government spending remaining high, industrial construction on hold since March, manufacturing getting hit hard by tariffs, and consumer spending slowing.

Even if Trump’s reshoring efforts worked perfectly, we’d still be looking at two years of inflation and recession. And nothing in this administration has been done perfectly so expect this recession to be much deeper and longer than necessary.

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Transcript

Hey all, Peter Zeihan here coming to you from Iowa. Happy Easter week. Happy Easter week? Happy Easter week. Any who, a lot of you have written in to ask, whether I think we’re going to be in a recession and why? Short answer is. Yeah, yeah. First, the caveat. When the United States was making its presidential transition back in January, pretty much all of the signals for consumption activity, for industrial activity, for government activity were all green. 

I don’t mean to suggest there weren’t some complications in there are some things to kind of keep an eye on. But we were in the middle of an economic expansion. There was no reason for expect that to change. But the policies of Donald Trump have been so erratic, so consistently, ironically, that business confidence, has collapsed. And the United States is now in a situation where it is dealing with regulatory and geopolitical risk, which is something that business communities hate. 

On top of that, you have the tariffs, where in the last six weeks we’ve had 92 tariff policies, which make it impossible for anyone, business or consumer or even state and local governments to plan. So we’ve seen everything freeze up. And this is definitely going to cause a recession and a rough one and one that is completely unnecessary. 

So let’s just kind of go through the four categories of where the growth comes from. First, government. This is actually the one I’m least concerned about. Despite everything that Doge has done with firing people, it turns out that the president doesn’t have the authority to fire most federal workers. Neither does the Office of Management and Budget, and certainly Doge, which doesn’t even have a congressional mandate. 

Instead, every department in the federal government does have a federal mandate. And as congressionally mandated activities. So you can’t fire these people without congressional activity. So everything that Doge has done is pretty much already been unwound. The total budget savings and the low double digits of billions and 90% of the workers have already been rehired, doesn’t mean that they won’t be fired. 

Now, the Trump administration, in kind of round two is actually doing it the right way, going through the cabinet secretaries and getting legal structure from Congress for the reductions. And that will work. But that won’t manifest this quarter and probably not next quarter. So what that means is, even with the federal government being in chaos, the spending is still happening. 

So we’re getting none of the functionality of government, but all of the cost of government. And from an economic point of view, that is a slight negative, but not a big one. So government’s kind of a non-factor right now. Next up is industrial spending, primarily on construction of new industrial plant. Now, in calendar year 2023 and 2024, we were setting records every single month, and it all came to a screeching halt on the 1st of March of this year because of all the changes in the regulatory structure programs, and because of all the chaos with the tariff policy, no one knows what the cost structure is any longer to build in the United States. 

And so no one is building in the United States. We have already had a longer stretch of zero industrial construction, at any point, in the United States, since World War two. Now that is only about 10% of the economy, but it’s at a huge drag right now. Next up is manufacturing. Primarily the problem here are tariffs on Canada and Mexico, which are coming in and out and changing on a regular basis, just like with everything else. 

But it’s really hit things like auto spending, Your average automotive has 30,000 parts and on par, all of the parts basically go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth across borders to whichever one of the three NAFTA partners do the best. And on May 2nd, we don’t simply have tariffs on Finnish cars. 

We have it on all of those auto parts. And so we’re looking at the average cost of a vehicle going up by 12 to $20,000. If it’s made in North America. And that is going to be crushing. So with the existing tariff that we have right now that was implemented on the first week of April, that was already enough to trigger manufacturing recession and the really heavily auto committed places like Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio. 

And what we’re going to see, in the 1st of May is that will spill out to the other 25 states that are big into transport technology, and that’s everybody from Washington to Texas to, South Carolina. So then we get a manufacturing, recession. That’s another 15 to 20% of GDP. And then finally there’s consumption, which is the big boy, three stories here. 

First of all, Trump says we’re going to get agricultural tariffs very, very soon. In fact, by the time you see this video might have already happened, for the bottom quintile of the American population, one third of income is spent on food. So that immediately is enough to translate into a consumption recession for the poor and especially poorer parts of the United States, such as the Deep South or some parts of the Rocky Mountains. 

Second, the wealthy, most of their consumption is tightly correlated to what’s going on with the stock market. And that’s been a shit show for the last couple of months. So all of a sudden, the people who have the highest amounts of capital are probably going to be drawing back. And third, the tariffs at the time of this recording, we have 145% tariff on, on China, which is where most of our electronics and consumer goods come from. 

So you throw that on top of what everyone would normally purchase and, you get a consumption led recession across the entire system very, very quickly. Now, the end goal here, of course, of the Trump administration’s policies are to expand the industrial footprint in the United States and get back into manufacturing in a big way. But that takes a lot of things like steel and aluminum, copper. 

And we now have tariffs on all of those things. So building out this industrial plant will be very, very expensive. And if everything goes the way that Donald Trump says it will, we won’t see the first output from these new factories within two years, which means that this transition period best case scenario, according to Trump’s words himself, is two years of inflation and recessionary activity. 

That’s assuming that he’s made the plan perfectly. He hasn’t. And that assumes that he’s right about what he’s doing. He’s not. So yes, recession probably starting off formally, statistically in the second quarter, certainly in the third, and lasting a lot longer than it would have ever needed to.

I Hope You Didn’t Want to Buy a Home

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Trump’s endless tariff policies will likely hit just about every corner of the American economy, but the US housing industry is poised to take a devastating blow.

Mortgage rates are higher, there’s a labor shortage, and material costs are on the rise, which all make the concept of homeownership less attainable. You would think that the aging population would help free up some of that real estate, but the boomers are aging in place, rather than downsizing or going to a retirement home.

So, if you already own a home…good for you! If you do not…I hear Van-life is all the rage right now!

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Transcript

Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from Florida, doing kind of an open ended series now on the effects of the tariffs on the US economic structure. And today we’re going to talk about housing. It is probably the sector that’s going to get hit hardest, with the exception of electronics imports. Both from the point of view of supply and from the point of view, of course. 

So let me just run through it real quick. First of all, if you want to buy a house, you have to get a mortgage, unless you’re incredibly lucky and mortgage rates are going up for a couple of reasons. Number one, if the Trump administration does what it says it wants to do, it’s going to increase deficit spending by roughly 1 trillion US a year, which will put pressure on the debt market hugely. 

And all those ten year Treasury bills the Treasury Department is going to have to issue, are going to add up and raise the cost of a mortgage because it’s based on the ten year Treasury. That’s number one. Number two, we were moving in this direction anyway. Most of the free capital in a system comes from a population of people aged 55 to 65, who haven’t yet retired but are preparing to. 

Their incomes are very high, their expenses are low, and the difference between those two generally gets shoved away for the future because they know when they retire, they’re going to have to basically cash out of their high velocity investments. So stocks and bonds become T-bills and cash. Well, as of January of this year, two thirds of the American baby boomers, the largest generation we have ever had, have retired. 

That liquidation has already happened. I’d argue that most of the reason we’ve seen a quadrupling in capital costs across the overall economy these last five years hasn’t been Covid. It hasn’t been Biden or Trump or the fed. It’s just been the boomers doing what you do when you retire. Well, that hits mortgage rates as well. And then we have Trump’s more specific policies, basically liquidating the migrant workforce. 

Trump says he wants to send about half of at home, roughly 5 million people. Well, the industry that migrant workers are most likely to work in after agriculture is construction. In addition, we have tariffs on steel and aluminum, which are two of the four biggest components that go into home building, the other two being copper and wood, which are also under sanctions. 

So all of the inputs that are necessary to build a house in the first place are seeing their prices go up even as finance goes up. And there’s one more angle to keep in mind if something happens to your car, if something happens to your housing, if you draw upon your insurance policy for rebuilding, you still need labor and steel and aluminum and copper and wood. 

While you might not need wood for the car, but the rest of it. And so insurance premiums are probably going up 20 to 30% just this year, specifically because of new policies out of the federal government. Finally, the boomers themselves, unlike the generations that have come before, who move into smaller units when they retire, whether it’s an apartment or assisted living or something like that, boomers are far more likely to stay in their home and age in place. 

And there’s nothing wrong with that. But what it does mean is the single largest concentration of homes that owned by the boomers is not getting freed up as part of this demographic turnover. And so if you are a millennial and especially, a member of generation Z, the quantity of housing simply isn’t there. The older generation is staying in place. 

The newer construction costs more. The home insurance that you have to get to get the mortgage costs more. And the mortgage mortgage itself costs more. You add it all up and housing is just expensive and only going to get more. So we cannot build it fast enough. And even if we could, the components that go into it are more expensive than they have ever been relative to the average income in American history. 

So if you happened to own your house, of course, this is all great news because we’re entering a higher inflationary environment, which will eat down the cost of your loan relative to your income. So if you were in a position where you have already established yourself, this is great. If you’re trying to get going. This is awful. And that is one more problem that we’re going to have with inequality down the road.

Is Trump Playing 4D Chess?

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If you’re like me, you’ve probably sat at your computer for hours on end, reading tons of articles, watching countless interviews, and you still have one question…Does Trump have any strategy at all?

Here’s the most recent example as to why my answer is no. The Treasury Secretary hinted at a plan to unite US allies first, then confront China – that makes a lot of sense. Trump, however, has taken the approach of threatening and pissing off all the US allies – that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Relations with China are in shambles, there is no leadership in the government, multi-country negotiations are laughable, and there are no clear goals or an end in sight. If you still think that Trump is playing 4D chess, I hope for everyone’s sake that you’re right.

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Transcript

Peter Zeihan here coming to your Denver airport. And, in the aftermath of all the back and forth on tariffs, specifically with China, it’s worth asking the question, is there a strategy here? We’re all looking for our own world, desperate to find one. And by we, I mean Americans in general in the wider world. 

Everything at the white House seems completely chaotic, and it may well be, but we did have the Treasury secretary. Mr. Bassett mentioned that, the specific goal was to box in China. In his words, we’ll probably strike a deal first with our allies that they’ve been good military allies and plus good economic allies. And once we have that deal in place, then we were all together. 

Go and confront the Chinese. And for someone like me who plays in the world of big geopolitics, that’s really sexy and really attractive and is probably potentially a very effective way to do it. But there are a few problems. I mean, the first and most obviously, that is not how it’s happened so far. The Trump administration. 

Well, actually, let’s be honest here, Donald Trump has threatened all of the allies, some with military invasion, and that’s usually not the sort of activity you want to do if you are going to then try to build a coalition. There’s also the leadership issue and the coordination issue. The Trump administration, again, Donald Trump personally gutted the upper tiers of every department, including defense and state as well as commerce. 

So there simply aren’t a deep cadre of staff that can carry out multiple negotiations at the same time. It’s really just Donald Trump himself. And even if you believe that he’s the best negotiator in human history, still just one guy and he’s got other things going on. So the idea that he can build a coalition of several dozen countries and then lead them in negotiations against the power, that definitely flies in the face of what your lying eyes are seeing on a regular basis. 

Third, the value of the tariffs. We’re now up to 125%, I believe, is the current number for the tariff level with China. That’s enough to freeze commerce between the two countries, with the notable exception of a few things that we can’t get from anywhere else, which will just kind of suck up the cost. Trade is basically going to collapse already, and that’s before you consider that on April 17th, Chinese shipping companies and Chinese ships are going to face an additional fee on top of everything else when they hit an American port. 

There’s not a lot of room here for negotiation and putting the Chinese in a box. While I do enjoy seeing it, is not really conducive to having a meaningful negotiation relationship. And then, of course, there’s the little Intel thing. As I’ve started doing pieces on the tariff issue, I had people from the administration contacted me from time to time. 

And the most enlightening 1 or 2 of them, number one, was a guy who’s deep in MAGA world who said that the morning of the tariff announcements on April 2nd, that they still haven’t started putting together. And if you remember, the tariffs that were adopted on, April 2nd, the reciprocal tariffs were nothing of the kind, rather than looking at what everybody’s tariff levels were and what non-tariff barriers such as currency manipulation might have been, all they did, all Trump did was take the trade deficit and divide it by what we export. And that was the number, no basis in fact, no basis in reality had nothing to do with trade policy whatsoever. 

It was just a fabricated number. So nobody knows what it is that the Trump administration is actually after. So there is no way to position yourself for meaningful talks because you don’t know what success looks like. Canada has definitely been on the receiving end of this in the worst possible way. Trump originally said it was about fentanyl, but the U.S. sends a couple of orders of magnitude more illegal narcotics north than comes south. 

And he said it was about illegal migrants. The U.S. sends more illegal migrants north and south as well, again by an order of ten. He said it was about dairy, but we don’t send them in enough dairy to even qualify for their terrace level. So now it’s about Canada becoming the 51st state, and that really doesn’t leave a lot of basis for negotiations, negotiations. 

It’s not just about providing people with a method of meeting you part way, but you have to let them know what it is you actually want so they can actually think about giving it to you. And we haven’t established that relationship with anyone yet. So the more likely outcome is we just get a direct clash between Chairman XI of China and Donald Trump of the United States, and that goes on a lot of very interesting and particularly dangerous directions. 

Now, again, this is all great for me. Chaos and dysfunction are my jam. But in the meantime, the world’s largest economy and really everybody else’s economy are hanging by a thread in the meantime. And we’re looking at a recessionary stagflation area environment until this is resolved one way or another, assuming it is resolved at all.

Of Tariffs, Manufacturing and PSAs

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The tariffs on China are now effectively 145% and penalties tied to Venezuelan oil could raise that to 170%. Trump’s tariff policies are nearing the triple digits, so the level of uncertainty filling every board room is chilling.

While the idea of moving manufacturing away from China is an attractive idea, Trump is trying to brute force his way through this obstacle. When you do that with one of the most complex and developed global trade systems, it’s not going to be a fun process. And there’s no safety net to this. With allies like Canada and Mexico under the pressure of their own set of tariffs imposed by Trump, who is going to pick up the manufacturing? Or help with the industrial buildout?

Needless to say, we’re heading down a very painful road. My piece of advice – you may want to pick up an extra phone or laptop while it’s still (somewhat) affordable.

(Well, that lasted for a bit…)

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Transcript

Hey all Peter Zeihan here coming to you from Florida. And while I was on my way here, the Trump administration issued a clarification of the tariffs on China that they’re actually not 125%, the 145%, because some of the tariffs that were on earlier are stuck with the ones that are here now. And that’s before you apply, the tariffs for China using, Venezuelan crude, which would take it up to 170. 

So I thought it would be useful to give a little bit of a technical update. Paired with a bit of a public service announcement. So the whole goal for what Donald Trump is trying to do here, which I broadly agree with, the goal is to bring manufacturing away from the Chinese space and into the US space. The problem is that, you don’t do that overnight, especially for more technical things. 

So when you see the Commerce secretary saying nonsense about having Americans work in factories screwing iPhones together, I mean, that’s just stupid, because that’s not how it works. The iPhone, for example, has 1100 supply chain steps, and they’re scattered across East Asia with about 90% of them either starting, ending, or being centered in China. So it’s not like you move one factory, you move 1100 plus all of the logistical and labor support that goes with it. 

And before you say the US can do this quickly, keep in mind that it took Apple 25 years to develop the iPhone and then another 20 years for it to turn into the product that it is today. Those supply chains are the end result of 40 years of breakneck industrialization and industrial development that was ultimately funded by debt driven investment funds, that it’s a combination of capturing all of the spare savings of the population over the course of the last 50 years, combined with a huge amount of currency printing. 

You’re talking about a combined industrial plant in China of roughly 40 trillion U.S. dollars equivalent. Even if the United States was to put $2 trillion of federal spending towards this project a year at the soonest, you would be expect the United States to be able to build an iPhone. It’s somewhere around 12 to 15 years from now, which means that no matter how high the tariffs get under the 45 right now, you should not expect to get meaningful American manufacturers with the next two years. 

In fact, Trump has said himself personally that we should see the first fruits of this project within two years. Two years is when we start to see the benefits. And honestly, that assumes that we have partners in this in Mexico and Canada. That is very clearly not clear right now because the Canadians and the Mexicans are under tariffs just like everybody else. 

So no one even wants to start building the industrial plant until there’s some clarity. And the announcement today that said that China is now up to 145. That is the 92nd tariff policy that we have had in this country in the just the last six weeks. And until things settle down a little bit, I don’t expect anyone to start investing hundreds of billions of dollars. 

Now what else? What we’ve been seeing in the last six years, roughly, is an evolution in the understanding of manufacturers about how reliable China is as a place to manufacture. So during Covid, everyone started diversifying away from China. They called it a China plus one strategy. And then about 18 months ago, well before Donald Trump had even won the primaries, there was a realization that China is no longer the low cost producer. 

There’s the sunk cost of the industrial plant, and that is a massive motivator. But Chinese labor now costs roughly two, two and a half times as much as Mexican labor, and it’s not as highly skilled. So we were going from a China plus one strategy to an anything but China strategy. Well, in the last six weeks, what Donald Trump has achieved has gone from an US only strategy for consumption to a US plus one strategy in the mind of all of the world’s major global manufacturing companies. 

So until we get clarity on the regulation, on what federal support might look like on the power grid, on the ability of the United States to produce the base materials like steel and aluminum, copper and wood and all the rest. No one’s putting anything here for the last two years, we have set regular records for industrial construction spending in the United States as part of the diversification away from China and the reshoring from China. 

But because we’ve had policies changing, oftentimes hour by hour, everyone is just stalled. And for the first time since Covid, and for the second time since World War two, industrial construction spending has basically gone to zero. Until we have clarity, that’s where it’s going to stay. Now, if I can take a flight across the country and we don’t get a new tariff policy by the time we land, then we can start the conversation about how we can begin the 12 to 20 year process to achieve what Donald Trump really wants, which means that your average low end iPhone is going to cost a shade under $3,000 if it’s originating in China, because while China may not be the most advanced manufacturing power, they are the assembly power. 

And so all the parts circulate around East Asia, are centered into China and then shipped from China to the United States, all of them qualifying for that 145% tariff. Which means that effective. Now, if you want electronics, you want your iPhone, you want your computer. Without that massive markup, you have to buy something where the inventory already exists. 

In the United States, because anything new coming in has that price markup. So Apple flew apparently 60 tons of product into the country a couple of days ago to get in under their wire. And that’s all that’s left. So you want to save a few thousand bucks, buy your new computer, buy your backup computer, buy your new phone, buy your backup phone. 

Now, I bought three of each.

Stopping Trump’s Tariffs with A New Trade Act

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It’s hard to equate Trump’s tariff policies to much of anything, but the movie “Unstoppable” where Denzel Washington needs to stop a runaway train might be the best I can come up with. And just like in the movie, there is a quickly approaching curve that the train is going to fly off (the curve in this analogy is stagflation, recession, and a hindrance of US industrialization).

All standard measures of stopping this ‘train’ are gone. Both political parties are fractured, Trump has surrounded himself with loyalists, and the traditional policy influencers have been sidelined, while the judiciary doesn’t typically intervene in trade policy, Congress does have constitutional authority over tariffs. While this power was ceded to the president through the Trade Act of 1974, a new bi-partisan effort called the Trade Act of 2025 could reclaim it. This bill would require congressional approval for tariffs to remain in place beyond 60 days.

Even if this did make it to Trump’s desk, it would be sent back to the Senate and require a veto-proof majority, which isn’t going to happen any time soon. It’s probably going to take red states feeling some significant economic impacts before we can entertain the idea of slowing, much less stopping, this train.

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Transcript

Peter Zeihan here. Coming to you from Colorado on a bright, sunny, shiny, snowy morning. Anyway, taking a question from the Patreon crowd today, and it’s with all this terror fun and games that’s going on in Washington at the white House. Is there any institution? Is there any person? Is there anything in the United States that could make it stop and maybe unwind it? 

So we aren’t in a stagflation era environment so we don’t face down a protracted recession, and that we can actually keep the industrialization that we already have. It doesn’t look great. We’re at a time of political transition here in the United States, where both of the political parties have broken down. The Democrats basically collapsed in the last election, and it’s reasonable to think that they won’t come back. 

And the Republicans have been so subsumed in the cult of Trump that all of the business leaders and national security leaders and so on. That used to be the bedrock of the Republican Party. How are I best being called rhinos at worst, are being called Democrats or something else? Anyway, so the normal political things that could, shape a president’s behavior are gone. 

In addition, Donald Trump is a nonstandard president, and he’s made sure that there is no one in his circle who knows anything. His chief manufacturing trade adviser has never manufactured a thing in his life. His commerce secretary is craven, and there is no one in the upper echelons of any of the departments that really knows anything about their purview, because Trump fired everyone and replaced them with political lackeys. 

So he only accepts into his circle the information he wants. And one of the few bodies that actually has access to that circle are the Russians. And anything that destroys American long term economic vitality is something they’re going to be enthusiastic about. So you can expect a steady drip of that sort of misinformation going right to the top. 

As for the other levers of government, the judiciary never touches trade, or at least only obliquely. So there’s no one you can sue in order to get a court ruling that might make this better. The only body that matters, the only body that has really ever mattered when it comes to hemming in a president who’s gone off the rails is the Senate. 

And I’m not talking here about impeachment, although that is obviously, something that they’re famous, infamous for based on your politics. But, the Constitution very, very clearly lays out that interstate, intrastate and tariff policy is a congressional purview, not one of the executive branch. The executive has no native powers to regulate international trade at all. What happened is we had something called the Trade Act back in 1974 that gave the president tariff authority. 

So this is power that has been granted to the president decades ago, a half century ago. And so if Trump is going to be stopped or reined in or mollified or something, it has to come from the Senate basically initiating a repeal of that act. And that process has begun. Something called the Trade Act of 2025, which a couple of senators, one Republican and one Democrat, have co-sponsored, and it’s starting to get traction. 

If it were to pass, however, it would still then have to pass the president’s desk, and he would undoubtedly veto it. So it would have to pass by a veto proof majority. We’re nowhere near the political forces that be shifting in that sort of direction. We will have to have a more severe economic downturn than just a stock market crash like we’ve seen in the last few days. 

We’re talking about something that puts a lot of people out of work in a lot of red states. Keep in mind that Republicans have 53 of the 100 and Senate seats. You would need at least 67 senators to vote against the president for this to work. And even then, we’re just at the start of the process. Then we have to unwind a lot of stuff. 

Anyway, the person to watch is, the senator from my home state, Iowa. Chuck Grassley, he’s the senior member of the Senate now, I believe he’s like 185,000 years old, almost as old as Biden and Trump. Anyway, he’s been in the Senate for 35, 40, 60 century since the US was founded. Years. Long time. Anyway, what Chuck Grassley is known for more than anything else is he’s a rule of law fanatic. 

And while he has gone along with Donald Trump’s plans on pretty much everything, he’s done so with a wince, the whole way, because he knows that these are not conservative values. These are not good for the United States. But the party has shifted, and he feels he has to shift with it. 

But he was one of the co-sponsors for this bill that would repeal, presidential Tariff Authority, basically, if, if, if, if the bill in its current form were to become law after 60 days. You have to convince the Senate, that, the tariff is a good idea, otherwise it goes away. 

So you can use it as a negotiating ploy, but it doesn’t make it into policy. Whether that’s good or bad or indifferent is really not the point. The point is, is that the, the champion of rule on the Senate has been roused, and things are starting to move nowhere close to a resolution. But the process has started.

The Death of US-China Trade + LIVE Q&A Starts Soon

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Trump and Xi got into a pissing contest with their tariffs and you guessed it, everybody lost…

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Transcript

Peter Zeihan here it is April 9th. Yesterday, the Trump administration added another 50% to the tariff on China, which brings the official total to 104. And we’re probably only days away from a secondary sanction being placed on China for its trade with Venezuela, which will bring it to 129%. Also overnight, the Chinese raised their retaliation on tariffs to, for imports from the United States from 34% to 84%. 

So the largest bilateral economic relationship in human history is, for all intents and purposes, over now. And the decoupling is going to proceed with massive pace on the American side. This is highly inflation here because there just isn’t enough industrial base elsewhere on the planet. Even if we had good trade relations with everyone else to replace the manufacturing capacity that is in China. 

And if we’re going to build it here, we need all of the raw materials steel, aluminum, lithium, cobalt, all of it that China is the primary processor of. And all of those now does cost twice as much. So we’re looking at a minimum 10% inflation for the remainder of the year. And hyperinflation is something we need to start considering as a possibility. 

We’re also looking at a recession, because the increase in costs for the basic things that allow your life to function is now beyond the point that the lower third of the American population can afford without significant external support. And the federal government is already in a massive debt situation that Donald Trump has promised to make worse, with additional spending and tax cuts on the Chinese side, they just lost their largest customer, their largest source of capital, their largest source of technology. 

And, the implicit support of a country that provides the military security, that allows their shipments to move. We now need to start considering what happens when the US military is tasked to economic issues, which will disrupt Chinese shipping to the rest of the world. And that very quickly leads not just to a recession and a social breakdown in China, but something potentially far worse that could technically include things like military conflict, and is a disassociation of the Chinese system and everything goes with it. 

It is a very quickly evolving and degrading situation. We have to cult of personality on both sides of the Pacific, who basically ignore what few advisors they have left. It is now a battle of egos, with the rest of us caught in the middle, and it will not end well. There is no one who can mediate here. This is no one who can talk either side down. 

This is going to go until something breaks. And what is going to break is the current economic expansion in the United States. We are firmly in recession territory now, and probably the Chinese system as a whole. And there’s no way that those two things don’t happen without a cavalcade of additional issues. Now, at very we’re having our question time here on Patreon for subscribers. 

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Well, the fat lady ain’t singing yet. Late yesterday, more updates on Trump’s tariffs were released. The gist is that North American trade is taking a huge hit, auto manufacturing and its ancillaries will face severe disruptions, and steel and aluminum costs will soar. Again, we’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg, so we may all want to keep those tariff notifications on for a while.

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Transcript

Hey all, it’s early in the morning, April 3rd. I set my phone to ping me, when the tariff policy changed. And that was an error. With changes overnight, we’re now on our 86th tariff policy in the last month. Today, I just wanted to talk very briefly about what’s going on with the Canadians and the Mexicans, which are at the heart of the US trading system. 

And basically there isn’t an manufacturing supply chain that we have that isn’t reliant upon steps in both countries. According to the newest changes. Effective immediately, we have a 25% tariff on all automobiles, on top of a 25% tariff on all trade coming from Canada and Mexico, on top of a 25% tariff on imported aluminum and steel, on top of a 10%, tariff on imported energy. 

So the baseline rate for Canada, Mexico is technically only 25% for our number one. And our number two largest trading partners. But then we have these additional, tariffs, that really hit integration issues. So just running through the battery real quick. Energy, most of the crude that comes from Alberta is refined and used in the United States. 

Basically, we’re the only refineries in the world that can process this stuff. In most cases, if the Canadians were to build an alternative piece of infrastructure, which would cost $30 billion minimum and take at least five years, all that would get them to do is tidewater. And then they have to build a refinery, helps them build a refinery somewhere else. 

So this is, energy that basically just became more expensive, and is really going to push U.S refineries to change the way they refine it, especially with the distillation column. So they can use lighter, sweeter crude. I’d argue that was probably a good idea anyway, but now there’s a very strong financial impetus to do it. And in the meantime, we’re gonna have a significantly more expensive gasoline and diesel, particularly in the Midwest and particularly in agricultural regions. 

That’s one number two, automotive, at the moment, the automotive tariff only applies to finished vehicles with a partial discount if there are parts in that vehicle that are, made in the United States. So if you have a car that’s assembled Mexico, but three quarters of the parts come from the United States, you get a 75% exemption from the tariff. 

Of course, most vehicles, made in North America are very heavily integrated. Whether it’s the Detroit area with Ontario or Texas, with Mexico. So this has an immediate impact to the tune of about. It’s going to average based on type, somewhere between 2 and $12,000, a vehicle with the 12,000 being more appropriate for cars that are imported from Europe. Within 30 days, this tariff will expand to cover not just finished vehicles but all car parts. And when that happens, it will absolutely shatter the manufacturing supply chains of, the United States, Mexico and Canada, which we’ve spent the last 30 years building to make it the most efficient car industry in the world, because most of these parts cross the border four and five times. 

And so doing this will basically break the entire system, because this is on top of the 25% tariff that now exists for Mexico and Canada. So 50% charge every time something crosses, even for a cheap car, that will add at least $10,000 per vehicle, and will absolutely make the United States completely dependent on imported vehicles from places with lower tariffs. 

Assuming nothing else changes, something else is certainly going to change. Like I said, this is the 86th tariff policy. And then finally steel and aluminum. The Chinese are collapsing right on schedule. Their demographic disaster is well past. The point of no return has been for years. They probably have no more than eight years left. And we need to double the size of the industrial plant, assuming we do that in league with Mexico and Canada. 

If we’re not going to do it in league with them, we’re probably talking more about a tripling in. That is a lot of steel and a lot of aluminum that we’re going to need. And now that, is more expensive, keep in mind that Canada was our number one supplier of aluminum. And now that costs 50% more and none other than the president of Alcoa, not a Canadian company has said that this is one of the most economically devastating things that could ever happen to his industry, as well as construction in general is worse in manufacturing in a broader sense. 

So, yeah. Last video I gave to you guys last night suggested a recession, for about a year and inflation about 6%. This new stuff that happened overnight suggests it’s going to be significantly worse. And I would be asked if this was the end of it, because Trump hasn’t even started announcing things like sectoral tariffs on things like semiconductors or medications. 

We know that there’s $1 million tariff minimum that’s going to come on all port visits by Chinese vessels. That’s just around the corner. We’ve got the car tariffs, car part tariffs that kick in in a month. We are just getting started on this dislocation..

Trump’s Tariffs: Reciprocal Edition + Live Q&A

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Trump has announced his first big batch of tariffs (that’s right, what’s happened until this point is fairly small compared to the new stuff). Here’s a snapshot of where this one round will take us…

Note: Without more clarity from the administration on how tariffs will be administered, we’re left to do a bit of quick back-of-the-envelope math.

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Peter Zeihan here coming to you from a hotel room because I’m traveling. It’s tariff day at the white House, so lots of news, but honestly, not the level of detail we need yet. So we know there’s more information that will be coming up from the white House in the next day or week or so. But where we are right now is that Donald Trump has listed what he calls reciprocal tariffs. 

About how 50 countries, he indicates that more will be coming. And there is no information at the moment on sectoral tariffs. So specifically on agriculture or semiconductors or anything like that. So working with what we now know, the ones for the Western hemisphere aren’t too bad. Most of them are about 10%. That is enough to drive up the cost of integrated supply chain systems, but probably not enough to get most people to move production. 

So that just turns out to a flat cost on everything that comes in as part of America’s existing trade deals with Chile, with Colombia, with Central America, with Mexico and with Canada. This is an inflation issue rather than a re industrialized or a movement issue at this point. I also need to underline that this is not the end of the story. 

And we also, on top of that, have a 25% tariff on all automotive products, unless they were built in the United States from American parts. So if, for example, if Ford was to bring in parts from Mexico and then do value out of the United States and ship them to Canada for final assembly, most of that would still be taxed twice, probably more like 11 times, because every time you cross the border, you get that tax again.So we’re now looking at combined with this new 10% tariff, probably increasing the average cost of a vehicle really depends upon the vehicle. But somewhere between 4 and $14,000 based on where you’re getting it from. The second big chunk is when you’re looking at Europe. I don’t want to say they got off easy, but they only have a 20% tariff. 

That, again, is not enough to rewire supply chains. It’s just enough to crimp the trade relationship and raise the cost of products. Keep in mind that we don’t get a huge amount of stuff from Europe. That is not what I would call, you know, finished value added stuff. So it’s not that back and forth stuff like we have in NAFTA, where even a low tariff number can have a real crushing impact, it’s more finished products or luxury products or cultural products that are coming up. 

They just get 20% more expensive. Third, and my biggest concern is Southeast Asia. I really all of East Asia, the biggest numbers that he allotted for countries that were in like pipsqueak like 

Cambodia is like 45% anyway. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, all the Southeast Asian countries, almost all of them, they’re pretty big numbers, 25% and up. 

And this is a real problem moving forward. Not only is the United States really technologically intertwined with the Northeast Asian countries, Japan, Korea and Taiwan, and that makes everything with the semiconductor supply chain really problematic because those like with NAFTA products are going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth all the time. And the United States provides the most value added parts of that product. 

This blows that up from the inside and really incentivizes other countries to fill that gaps if they’re technologically able. And that will really help out Japan, Switzerland and Korea and Taiwan over the long run. Assuming there’s not another step, there will be another step. I don’t want to play that, but what I’m really worried about is Southeast Asia, because in a world where China breaks, Southeast Asia is the part that’s going to play the most constructive role hand-in-hand with NAFTA, I might add, for picking up the pieces and building whatever is next. 

And now there’s basically a 25 or more percent tariff on almost everyone who was involved in Southeast Asia in case of Vietnam specifically, which is the country that’s probably going to do the best out of this and be America’s strongest partner in the area. It’s now a 46% tariff. That’s enough to wreck the relationship overall. So all the progress that we have made in the last ten years and moving away from China, these new tariffs just punch in the gut and we’re going to have to start over. 

And that is going to be incredibly expensive. And then finally there’s China itself. 34% is the starting number that appears that that is on top of the 20% that Trump already did in the last two months. And that’s before you consider the additional price on agricultural products or automotive products or what are being called secondary tariffs from, Venezuela. 

So at a minimum, we’re now looking at, see, 3454 or 6474. We’re looking at 79 and then modified by product. So if it’s car parts for example, 79 becomes 104. That blows up the single largest bilateral economic relationship on the planet that is not within NAFTA. And then of course, we’ve got a couple of grenades in the room of NAFTA as well. 

Anyway, talking about all of this put together, we are easily looking at a recession that is going to last a year. If everything that Trump hopes comes to pass, and this leads to an absolutely massive explosion of investment in the North American sentiment, let me rephrase it. In the American system, that’s a 12 to 20 year process. 

So a 12 to 20 year process with much more expensive goods and eventually a part system that has to divorce itself from everybody else that could get really bad really fast. Again, about the only saving grace here is that, within the Western Hemisphere, the base tariff is only 10%, which will mean everything is more expensive, but it probably won’t break down. 

So recession for about a year, much higher inflation that we needed it to be, will probably break 6% this year in a conservative basis. And never forget that this is phase one. And Trump has made it very clear that more, much more is coming down the pipe.

Why I’m Okay with Some of the Secondary Tariffs + You Mess with the Don, You Get the Tariffs

Why I’m Okay with Some of the Secondary Tariffs

On March 25, President Trump announced a new 25% tariff on purchases of Venezuelan crude. There’s a lot going on with this one, so let’s cover the micro and macro.

According to how the framers wrote the constitution, authority over tariffs—like much of trade—sat with Congress. Second, Venezuelan crude typically hits the US to be processed by our specialized refineries. So, this tariff is just raising costs for US refiners instead of directly hurting Venezuela. Unless of course you ignore all that and simply apply the tariff wherever you want.

Regardless of how many holes can be poked in these moves, the broader reality is that globalization is ending, and the US will need some new economic tools to face that change. As clumsy and unstructured as it is, at least the US gets to put some new tools through the ringer before they have to take the big stage.

You Mess with the Don, You Get the Tariffs

Well, it finally happened. Word got back to President Trump that Putin and the Russians were making a fool of him in their negotiations and peace talks, so the obvious next step is to throw some more tariffs at them…

This would be accomplished with 25-50% secondary tariffs placed on the US exports of countries who still buy Russian crude – primarily China. Total up all of the tariffs coming down on China after April 2nd, and they could be looking at over 100% tariffs. So, those Chinese electronics and other imports risk becoming a lot more expensive in the near future. There’s no quick replacement for China’s supply chains either, which means high prices and tariff-driven inflation will be hitting consumers hard for a while.

The worst part of all this tariff minutiae is that it won’t change how the Russians interface with the world. It just ups the pressure on Russia’s key suppliers, like China, Iran, and North Korea. As I said in my secondary tariff video the other day, at least we’re going to see if secondary tariffs can be an effective tool for us in the coming deglobalized world.

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Transcript #1

Hey. Peter Zeihan here. Coming from Colorado. We’re going to a quick one today about something that happened on the 25th of March. Specifically, Donald Trump announced in a bit of a surprise to everyone on his team that there’s yet another tariff coming. This one specifically is a 25% tariff on anyone who purchases Venezuelan crude oil. The idea is that Venezuela is a horrible place, led by a horrible team that is doing horrible things to its people in the United States, thinks horribly of it, and therefore no one should deal with it. 

Three things here. Working from least to most important. First, this is blatantly illegal. The Constitution is very clear that the authority for tariffs is, lies with Congress, not with the presidency. Whenever the president wakes up with a hair up his ass. That obviously does not matter to this administration at all, as we have seen over and over and over again, and especially since the American Senate has basically abdicated all responsibility for policymaking and just defer to Trump on everything. 

Legally, this is obviously an issue. And moving forward, it could be an interesting series of topics in domestic politics, but I really don’t see anyone calling the president on it. So, you know, bygones. Second most Venezuelan crude ends up in the United States. So this is technically a tariff on us. Venezuelan crude is super heavy, and it’s super, contaminated with things like sulfur and mercury and there are very, very, very few refineries in the world that can process it unaided. 

And almost all of them are in the United States. Actually, I would argue all of them are in the United States. However, Venezuelan, the United States don’t get along. So what happens is Venezuela produces the crude, they export it to a broker, and then that broker sells it to U.S. refineries. And so even though Venezuela and the United States have really not gotten along now since 1998, it’s been that long. 

We’re still the end destination for most of their stuff, and everyone just agrees to participate in a little bit of, paperwork, in order to make relationship still functional. Now, a little bit does go to China, and even less and it more regularly does go to India. But really, it’s all here. Now, the brokers who do this, those are primarily Chinese. 

So there could be an interesting, legal approach here to go after the brokers as to the United States. But, you know, ultimately, the people who are paying the tariffs or the people who are importing the stuff, or at least that’s theoretically going to work. Donald Trump is really not concerned with the details. So it feels like it’s just going to be a flat tariff on all things China of another 25%, which I believe brings us to almost 100% at this point. 

It’s been a moving target keeping track of that. That’s a lot. Anyway, far more importantly is, Trump’s right. Globalization is gone. It’s not coming back. And the series of tools that were developed to regulate the American economy and its interface with the rest of the system from 1945 until 2015, the at a minimum, need an update, much less things like saying that tariffs are the purview of Congress, which is enshrined in the Constitution. 

That certainly needs an update to. And so while I can make fun of the specifics of what is really a clownish attempt at economic policy, I have to admit that if we’re going to develop new tools, I would rather have them battle tested under an incompetent administration, in a short period of time than done the right way, using legalism and acts of Congress under a more capable president. 

So I’m actually okay with this. We’re moving into a world where it’s less based on rule of law and more based on whatever you define. Your national interest in the moment happens to be. So Venezuela clearly is a country that indirectly, indirectly has worked against American national interests for a couple of decades. And, basically hit him with a baseball bat in the shins is going to cause them a lot of problems. 

And the Chinese are not our friends. And so if you want to put an arbitrary tariff on them and just see what happens, you know, this is as good of a time as any to try this out. It’s all about experimentation. We need to develop a fundamentally new toolkit. And while Trump is obsessed with tariffs, tariffs will be at least one of the tools in that kit. So at least for the moment.

Transcript #2

Hey, everybody. Peter Zeihan here coming to you from a sloppy Colorado. It’s the 31st of March and the news is over the weekend, Donald Trump gave an interview when he talked about how angry he was with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The term pissed off was used a couple of times. The issue is that the Russians have absolutely no intention of agreeing to a meaningful cease fire, much less a long term peace agreement. 

And they’ve been deliberately going out of their way to humiliate the American delegations and all of the peace talks, because they can’t go back to Donald Trump with nothing. And they’ve actually been upping the ante trying to embarrass Trump himself. And apparently it finally sunk in, that there is not going to be a deal that the Russians would possibly ever agree to. 

And, Trump is starting to get angry now. You guys know my feelings on how the Russians negotiate. You know, my feelings on why the Russians do what we do and we’ll put links to why there will never be a ceasefire. At the end of this video. But the key issue, of course, is how Trump feels. 

Trump deliberately chose his national security team like he did most of his team, to not be competent, simply to be loyal and so just getting basic information about what’s going on in the talks back to the top is a simplistic issue because nobody’s communicating anything that they don’t think their boss is going to want to hear. 

Well, apparently it has gotten back to him that he’s being made a fool of, and it’s not going over well now. I might not think very much about Donald Trump’s negotiating tools and his negotiating record. However, he is the US president. He is the most powerful person in the world, and that gives him an array of options to implement, even if imperfectly. 

And the one he has decided to settle on, at least at the moment, is something called secondary tariffs, which is something he just made up last week when talking about Venezuela. We’ll link to that one as well. The idea is that anyone who purchases crude from the country in question Venezuela last week, Russia this week faces a 25 to 50% tariff on anything that comes into the United States. 

Now, this hasn’t been implemented yet versus Venezuela. So we don’t exactly know how it would work, but it would be potentially crushing. Now, the Russians themselves wouldn’t care. They’re not the ones paying the tariff. And even if they were, this war from there is about long term national security needs. They feel until they can get Ukraine completely into their territories, plus Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, parts of Romania and Poland and Moldova. 

That they won’t stop. They can’t stop. They’ve already paid the price of a major war. And if they stop now, that was paid that price without actually getting the strategic benefit of having a more secure, able external frontier. Now, until Trump came along, there is no way that the United States was going to send by and let this happen, because it would mean basically 100 million people, roughly half of which are allies, being on the wrong side of a new Iron Curtain. 

But Donald Trump had a different view of things until apparently Sunday. So now the question is what happens next? The Russians won’t do anything different. In fact, the Russian view going back to the beginning of the war is that even if the Europeans had stopped taking all Russian exports and energy cold turkey, the Russians would have still done this. 

It’s that important to them. So something coming out of the Trump administration now really isn’t going to change their math. However, the Russians are not in this war alone. Iran is providing drones. North Korea is providing troops and artillery. And the Chinese are providing basically all the technical stuff that the Russians need to build everything that they can build. 

So secondary sanctions on Russian crude would apply to China primarily. Well, secondary sanctions from Venezuela would partially apply to China. So we are in a position here where we might have a 50 to 75% tariff on China just because of secondary sanctions. That’s on top of the 20% that Donald Trump has already put on. That’s on top of whatever number he’s going to make up when it comes to Tariff Day, which is April 2nd, which is just two days from now. 

So it’s entirely possible, but by the end of this week, the Chinese will have over 100% tariff, maybe even a lot more than 100% tariff on anything that they sell under the United States. And that is going to change a lot. I don’t want to say what the end result will be, because there’s a lot of other tariffs that are supposed to hit on the second, and it’s I know where they are relative one versus the other. 

What I can tell you, if it does get that high versus China, anything that you use that you plug it into the wall, it’s going to get very, very expensive almost overnight. 

And because there are no alternative supply chains anywhere in the world to the manufacture and assembly of electronics, this is something that’s going to stick for years. It took 40 years to build out electronics processing and manufacturing in the China centric system that we know now. If we did a breakneck process here in the United States, just the United States, that’s easily another 15 years. 

If we include everybody within NAFTA in character, we could probably shave that down to seven. But it is a big step. And in the meantime we still need stuff. So we’re going to get a very, very breakneck lesson in two things here. Number one the impact of tariffs on inflation on a very grand scale from just this one country. 

And number two, we’re going to find out if secondary tariffs are an interesting idea that is destined for the dustbin of history or something more. And while the stakes are high, I got to say I’m looking forward to figuring out if this works or not because we are definitely moving into a globalized world. Trump is absolutely right on that, which means we will need different tools and more tools than we’ve been using these last 80 years of globalized trade. 

Secondary tariffs are potentially one of them, and we’re going to find out really soon if it works at all, or if it just screws us all over.

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Transcript

Hey, everybody. Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from Colorado. We have to talk about this whole signal gate thing. Oh, my God, so many, so many, so many things going wrong. Signal gate is this little scandal that has popped up in Washington because a number of top Trump administration national security officials had a chat on a third party unsecured platform about tactical military operations involving the strike on Yemen in mid-March, I think was the 12th and 13th of March. 

Anyway, reason we know about this is a reporter from the Atlantic was accidentally keyed on the conversation and basically had the whole thing. So we’re going to talk a little bit about classifications then, and secrecy issues and operational security. And then we’re going to talk about more of the implications of this and what it actually means for us as a country. 

And it’s not a happy story. So, from my brief and limited experience in the government, both in the State Department and the Defense Department, it’s drilled into you as an intern, operational security, the things you don’t talk about, the things you do talk about, where you talk about them with, who you talk about them. And the key thing is that every topic has its own set of rules. 

So if you have a certain level of security clearance, that doesn’t mean you can just go into the archives and read everything. There has to be a certain need to know. And if there’s a conversation on a certain topic that is sensitive, those conversations can only happen on specific locations or on specific platforms, none of which involve third party software. 

Which is very vulnerable to hacking. More on that in a minute. Anyway, so the fact that this conversation happened at all is bad. The idea that it happened with the people who were involved is worse, because one of those people was in Russia at the time using his personal phone, and one of those people was the Treasury secretary, who had no business being on a communication about tactical military operations at a place like Yemen. 

And then, of course, this was tactical military operations. What pushes you way above the, you know, the classic classification of top secret and is the ultimate of the need to know. Now, anyone who is a rival to the United States, or honestly just curious, is going to be targeting our Treasury secretary, because he apparently is involved in these conversations that have nothing to do with the Treasury Department, and there nothing in his background, and there’s no one in his circle that suggests he has any experience in operational security. 

So we just identified our top finance individual as being a leaker and intelligence target for intelligence operations for the rest of his term. That is a disaster in of of itself. But now let’s talk about the actual format here. Signals a third party app for communications. No third party apps are allowed anywhere in the State Department or the Defense Department or the intelligence agencies specifically because it’s illegal. 

It’s a bad idea to be communicating outside of government channels. When you’re talking about information that should be classified, part of it is illegal, because the little simple thing of the Freedom of Information Act, so that decades from now, we know how things happen on the inside. Part of it is to help future administrations see inside the decision making process for the current administration. 

All that information will be lost, but most importantly, it’s because it’s fucking hackable. And specifically with signal. The week that this went down, the Defense Department warned everyone in the defense Department that the Russians were actively circumventing the security measures on signal. So Pete Hegseth, who was the defense secretary, is the one who set this up. And he should have known better at every possible level. 

And every person who was involved in the chat should have known that everything about this at every level was not just a bad idea in poor statecraft, but illegal as well, for all the right reasons. That all of that is part one. second issue is the general mismanagement of information in the public sphere of the Trump administration at this point. Now, when this story broke, the smart play, the national security conscious play would have been to contact the reporter and make sure that information got wiped. Instead, they did what they always do, and they went on the attack saying that, nothing was shared. 

That was a war plan or classified information. And it is the fault of the reporter who doesn’t even have a security clearance, that this information was out at all. In fact, it got so bad that Tulsi Gabbard, who is the director of national Intelligence, even went to Congress and testified that this is no big deal. Now, I have an opinion. 

Most of the intelligence community in the defense community are of the opinion that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent that is actively working against American interests, right at the very top. Little professional tip, Miss Gabbard. If you don’t want people to think you’re a Russian agent, quit acting like a Russian agent. So, for example, lying to Congress about the use of the platform at the use of security, about the use of commercial information, and then actually what was in the conversation in the first place, because within hours of her doing that nonsense, the reporters like, well, if you don’t think this is classified information, I guess I can release it. 

And he did. And holy shit, it talked about specific assets, specific attack vector, specific times and locations. This is as high as it gets in terms of operational security needs. Which brings us to the third question why? Why is the Trump national security team so moronic? Two things going on here. First, Trump himself. When most leaders spend time out of power, they reflect on what went wrong and they build a team that fills in the gaps of what they don’t have. 

And they put together legislation so that when they get back into power, they can actually make their vision reality and make it last beyond their term. Trump didn’t do that. Trump fired everyone from his circle, inner and outer, who knew anything about anything. Because people who know things share what they know. And that means that Trump can’t be the smartest person in the room. 

He instead surrounded himself with loyalists, people who, you know, the recruiting process, competence didn’t make the list for anything that he wanted. So we have a DNI who works for a foreign power. We have a defense secretary that is a former TV host, and it shows. The second issue is when you’re first asked, when you get into the white House, is to pardon the people who protested and rioted on January 6th, complete with those who had attacked law enforcement personnel. 

Anyone who knows anything about national security won’t work for you because they’re like, fuck that noise. So the pool of people that Trump could draw from self-selected out, leaving only the people who would be personal, loyal, loyal, and really didn’t know anything about the process. Trump then went on to gut the upper echelons of every single department, not just the undersecretaries and the deputy secretaries, but everyone down as far as he possibly could fire. 

Removing all the knowledge base of everyone throughout the entire federal government and then replacing them with lackeys. And so we have people like this who literally have no idea how to keep information secure, who are making policy on behalf of all of us. And so, of course, it is all going horribly wrong. And that’s before you even start talking about the specifics of what those policies are.