All That Bitchin’ Won’t Keep China Around

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We’ve all been there. It’s Friday evening, the office is packing up for the weekend, and the boss decides it’s the perfect time to announce something big. So, I hope you enjoyed your weekend of mulling over the idea of what a 100% tariff on all Chinese imports would look like.

This is a retaliatory tariff in response to Beijing’s rare earth restrictions, but this is bigger than trade drama. China is falling apart demographically, which will domino into everything else over the next decade (ahem, like exports). Whether China-US trade stops because of tariffs or demographics, it is coming soon.

In short, quitcha’ bitchin’ and get ready for a world without China.

Transcript

Hey, everybody. Peter Zeihan here coming to you from Colorado. It is the 10th of October, and it’s just after closing time in Washington, D.C.. And right after everybody closed for the day, Donald Trump said that there’s going to be a 100% tariff on everything coming from China by November 1st, if not before, because the Chinese are putting restrictive, policies on their exports of rare earth materials, most notably to the United States. 

Rare earths are materials that are produced in trace amounts as a byproduct of the refining and mining of other metals, most notably, silver, lithium, copper. You basically have to take the concentrate that’s left over once you’ve gotten the primary stuff and then go through a series of refining steps that are very energy intensive and very polluting. 

And China has cornered that market. So they produce more than 80% of all of these materials. In some cases, it’s a functional 100% monopoly. Anyway, a lot of these materials help other properties emerge in more traditional things that I can be used very heavily in things like defense, materials. And so the Chinese have always found this to be a very useful pressure point. 

They’re also very much used in semiconductors. Anyway, the Chinese have restricted their exports. Trump has said no more and is now basically, saying that he’s going to double or more the tariffs that are in place. And that’s just the beginning. Okay. Now, before anyone makes this about trade or makes sort of Trump, I need to remind you guys of something. 

The Chinese are dying out. They already have more people aged 54 and over than 54 and under, and within ten years they will not have enough people under age 60 to run an economy. So it doesn’t matter who you are, it doesn’t matter what your producer export or import. 

You need to assume that that trade relationship is going to go to zero. Doesn’t matter if you’re exporting soy or beef or semiconductors or ethane or anything. Zero zero is where this is going. It doesn’t matter what you import from China, whether it’s transformers or wire or process chemicals or fertilizer or anything. It doesn’t matter. It’s going to zero. 

The only wiggle room here is the time frame. Either the Chinese die out over the next ten years and it goes to zero, or the Trump administration puts into place and owners tariffs. And by November 1st, or maybe even before it goes to zero, either way it is going to zero. So everyone needs to plan for that happening. 

Does the time frame matter? Of course it matters. Would I like to have more time? Of course I would like to have more time. But to pretend that this is a purely political question that can be negotiated away is a fallacy. And if that is your position, you’re going to lose everything. So quit your bitching and start your planning for a world without China. 

Sooner or later.

And You Thought the Jones Act Was Dumb…

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If you tasked me with creating a list of the greatest threats to America, I’m not sure cabinets, name-brand drugs, and semi-trucks would be on there…but the President disagrees.

So, get ready for a massive economic bulldozer to hit the US due to these new tariffs. With 90% of all US cargo moving by truck, these higher costs will create a ripple effect through every sector. This all started back with the Jones Act, which made domestic shipping prohibitively expensive, causing a shift in freight from ships to rail to (almost entirely) trucks.

Since those trucks are made across an integrated North American supply chain, dipping into Canada, the US, and Mexico, tariffs are hitting hard. That means everything Americans consume, from your food to your clothes, will cost a whole lot more.

Transcript

Hey all, Peter Zeihan here coming to you from Colorado today. We’re talking about the newest hit to the American economy. We now have tariffs on cabinetry, semi-trucks. And what was the third one? Name brand drugs, all of which have been classified as national security threats. Cabinetry. That’s an interesting one. Anyway, we could pick apart this all day, but I’m going to focus on the trucks because that’s the one we’re all going to feel soon. 

And most deeply, right now about 90% of all cargo, all ten miles of cargo that are transported to the United States are transported on the roads by semi-trucks. Now, it didn’t used to be this way. If you go back to, the depression, we had something called the Jones Act, the Interstate Commerce Act, which said that any to any cargo transported between any two American ports, regardless of where they were, had to be on a ship that was American built, American captain, American crude and American owned. 

As a result, we saw the cost of transport on the waterways increase in terms of, cost per ten mile by a factor of five. And we went from transporting most of our goods and especially most of our intermediate manufactured goods, especially in places like, the Great Lakes in the upper Midwest. We went from that being the dominant mode of transport to basically at whittling away to today in terms of ton miles, we only use our waterways for about 1% of our total cargo. 

It has been, in my opinion, the stupidest law that the United States has ever adopted. And it’s now been in place for a century. As a result, things went places where those restrictions were not in place. first with train and now with truck. Now with the Trump administration policy, there’s 100% tax on those trucks, of which about 80% of the imports come from Mexico. 

Another 10% from Canada. And As with anything that involves NAFTA, nothing that just made in one of the three countries. It’s an integrated supply chain that uses all three. So basically what we’re doing with this new tariff is saying this multi-step supply chain that we have, where parts of the trucks go back and forth among the three countries, if the finished product is actually done in Mexico, which is the relatively low cost work we will then tariff the cost of the entire truck when it comes back. 

So, in essence, retrofitting American workers and American companies who are making American products, who just happen to have the bumper stamped on in Mexico, and since 90% of our cargo is transported by heavy truck, you’re going to feel this in every sector. It doesn’t matter if you’re a hog farmer in Iowa sending your hogs to market, or if you are just ordering something on Amazon, it’s getting shipped across the country. 

The only people who will not feel this are the people who are in a physical position where supply chains for imported goods do not use the trucks, and that means you would have to be in one of the major port cities that has a mega port. So those are New York, new Jersey, Miami, Houston, Savannah, to Colma and LA Long Beach. 

Anyone else? This is going to hit everything that you consume. So I have long said that the Jones act is the dumbest law we’ve ever had, but it’s got some competition.

Immigration and Tariff Policies Stunt US Economy

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The Trump-era policies are going full Darth Vader and have the US economy in a chokehold (or force choke for the nerds out there). Today, we’ll be focusing on the policies covering immigration and tariffs.

Nearly all legal (and illegal) forms of immigration have been closed or drastically restricted. This includes high-skilled H-1B visas, which now have six figures in fees; most startups can’t go dropping that kind of dough. Once you mix in all the costly deportations and the retiring baby boomers, the US labor force is drying up quickly.

Tariffs are only adding to the problem. With 10-60% tariffs on imported goods (the Chinese sitting near the top with 50%), we’re beginning to see rapid price increases. Walmart and other retailers are reporting hikes that are only going to get worse.

Fewer workers, higher costs, and not enough domestic investment, all the things you don’t want to hear about an economy. The Fed warns that the only reason a recession hasn’t formally set in yet is because labor demand and the workforce are shrinking at similar rates. That has left the US economy dazed, confused, and highly vulnerable.

Transcript

Hey, all Peter Zeihan here come from Colorado. Today we’re going to, look at the American economic situation, how a number of Trump policies are coming together in the current environment and where we should expect that to take us during the rest of the year. Short version is the picture doesn’t look great. Let’s start with immigration. 

There’s basically four paths to immigration that the Trump administration has, put the crimps on first. You’ve got your illegal, irregular migrants, who cross the border and then try to slip into the system somehow. Number two, you’ve got your people who try to follow the rules and do it legally. Third, you’ve got your folks who come in on a high skilled visa, something like H-1b, to get a specific job sponsored by a specific company. 

And then finally, you got your rich folk that just come because they went to all four of these routes are in collapse. We now have the Trump administration going into churches during services in order to round up Hispanics and kick them out, as well as intervening in courtrooms and going, where they’re having their hearing on things like asylum or even just to see if they’ve done the paperwork. 

Right. And, before the hearing can happen, escorting them out of the country comes out to about 17 grand per person to do extraditions this way. And it strongly preferences people who do not have criminal records because they’re more likely to be out in public. So the original promise of just going after criminals that has long in the past, and we’re basically going against the rank and file of people who came for jobs or to be with families. 

Regardless of what you think about this, from a legal point of view or an ethical point of view, it it has an absolute impact on the job market. We’ll get to that in a minute. Legal pathways, those are pretty much all been closed down. And that is not simply a Trump two thing. That’s also a trump one thing that is also a Biden thing. 

Most of restrictions that Trump won put on legal migration were actually codified by the Biden administration and now than doubled down on. So you wanna come to United States, there’s only two paths left. 

Number one is you get an H-1b visa. That is the visa that like, say, the tech industry uses to bring high skilled people in to help populate their workforces. The number of those being granted is being reduced by about three quarters. And the fee for it is going up to something between $100,000 and $2 million. What that means is not only are far fewer companies going to do it, but the companies that will do it are only going to be the really big ones. 

So your apple, your meta, things like that. And so if you’re a small startup, you’re now stuck with local labor. And as anyone who’s in the tech space will tell you, there is not enough local labor for a tech industry in any country of the world. There’s a global supply, but there’s only enough to man tech sectors in maybe one quarter of the world’s countries, of which the United States has always been the largest market. 

And by severing the United States from that labor pool, you’re basically guaranteeing that the pace of technological change, will arrest, significantly. And we’ll see impacts of that within a month. And then finally, the only other way to get in is a gold visa. Now, Trump’s original idea was a $5 million gold visa that would get you into the country and basically give you residency. 

There were no takers. None. That’s put too fine a point on it. But if you’ve got $5 million to spend for a green card, you don’t need a green card. So they’ve dropped the price now to $1 million. We’ll see if they get any takers from that. It’s pretty steep. Still has to be approved by Congress. 

So basically, almost every path, for bringing migrants, immigrants, vacationers, whatever you want to call it, you know, have to have a bond to travel the United States for tourism, has been severely crimped, if not closed down completely. And it’s leading to the first population reduction in American history. And, from an economic point of view, we’ve got two issues going on that are both really bad. 

Number one, for the first time since Vietnam, the workforce is shrinking. And for the first time in American history, the labor pool is shrinking. What companies are doing is in this sort of environment, they’re letting go their older employees as they retire the baby boomers, and they’re not hiring replacements. Now, that has happened before. But for that to show up in the data this time as a reduction in overall employment numbers, you’ve got to remember the scale here. 

The boomers were, until very recently the largest generation in American history. And the Zoomers at the bottom of the pyramid right now are the smallest generation in history. So for that to register as a collapse in jobs, the numbers is immense. And it’s the opinion of the Federal Reserve that the only reason we haven’t seen a formal recession yet is that the job market and the labor pool are shrinking at the same rate, and that it’s the fastest we’ve ever seen in any era of American history. 

Now, macroeconomic theory tells us that this will generate and, not particularly long order, a very, very crushing recession. But I’m not ready to say that yet. Jerome Powell, the Federal Reserve is not ready to say that yet because there’s so many things in motion. What we do know for certain is it makes the United States much more vulnerable to any sort of shock, because there’s just simply fewer pillars holding up the system. 

Well, we’re getting that shock because of the tariff policy. We’ve got tariffs ranging from 10 to 60% on various countries in the world. The tariffs are on China at 50%, which is where we get a lot of our consumer goods. And so just since September 1st, just in the last two, three weeks, we’ve now seen price increases across the board that will show up in statistics next month most likely. 

But we’re seeing in corporate earnings already, remind you’re that we went in and out and in and out and in and out of these tariffs from when they were, initially applied in April. There were extensions. There were there were holidays, and most of them are now in place. So we’ve really only had them now for about six weeks, but that’s an long enough time to burn through some inventories and jack up prices on shelves. 

So Walmart, writ large, is looking at a 30% increase in prices across the board, with some items being more than double that. Keep in mind that this is when people are still pulling inventory that they built up during those holidays in preparation, so that 30% increase is going to absolutely increase month on month unless and until these tariffs go away. 

So we have a far weaker employment situation. We have far smaller labor force. We have a far less skilled labor force. We are not seeing the industrial investment that would be necessary to replace the manufactured goods that we’re losing access to, and we have tariffs that are making everything more expensive. This will generate an economic adjustment, in the not too distant future. 

The question is how soon, how bad in which sector? If I were a betting man. Usually not, but here we are. I would say the manufacturing is a sector to look at first, because more blanket the tariff structure, the easier it is to relocate manufacturing supply chain steps outside of the country with the tariff structure and just do it somewhere else, because instead of having product going back and forth across borders, which is how we say produce cars, you then have to pay that tariff multiple times per vehicle, whereas if you build the car completely beyond your shores and then bring in the finished vehicle, you only have to pay it once. And we’re seeing that in the investment decisions of companies that will manifest as employment problems next year. I think we’ll have our economic correction far before that, though.

While I Was Gone, Part 1: Trade Policy Updates

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A US federal appeals court has ruled that most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal since the president needs congressional authority to declare trade emergencies or impose tariffs.

So, it’s off to the Supreme Court to decide if Trump’s entire trade policy will get scratched. And if you’re thinking, “Did Trump’s trade team ever get staffed?” The answer is still a resounding “yeah right!”

This deep uncertainty is wreaking havoc on businesses that operate across borders; many of which are now shifting production out of the US. These policies are inadvertently accelerating American deindustrialization and whatever the Supreme Court decides, it’s going to be rough on the United States for at least the remainder of the year.

Transcript

Hey all, Peter Zeihan here. Come to you from the Lake of the Ozarks. I just got back from backpacking in Yosemite for a couple of weeks and holy crap, you guys have lost your mind. So I’m doing a series of videos this week, basically on, what’s happened while I was gone and what it means. This has a very, frog and a boiling pot sort of situation. 

The water has been heating up, and I don’t know how many people ever actually notice what’s been going on, but a lot of things are breaking pretty quickly. So let’s start with trade. Just before I got back, an appeals court and the U.S. federal level ruled that most of the tariffs that Donald Trump has been executing over the last few months are illegal under current law. 

Specifically, the Trump doesn’t have the ability to declare a trade deficit as a emergency. He can’t use fentanyl as a justification for a trade war. And he can’t just establish tariffs however he wants, wherever, once and for as long as he wants. Which, you know, honestly, it’s not a particularly strict reading of the law. According to the Constitution, Congress has the authority to set tariffs, and Congress has in bits and pieces over the last several decades, given some of that power to the president, but never to the degree of expansiveness that Donald Trump has asserted. 

This is a second court ruling on this issue against Trump. It will now go to the Supreme Court, probably before the end of the year. And it throws everything about the Trump tariff policy, which is the core of Trump’s economic and foreign policy into doubt. Part of the problem that Trump is going to experience here is that once you get past the tariffs, there really isn’t anything else under the hood. 

The federal government is still not staffed out. The US Trade Representative Office, which is supposed to negotiate and trade deals, still hasn’t been stopped out. The Commerce Department still hasn’t been staffed out. It’s so bad that the Treasury Secretary has been involved in some of these trade talks, and none of the trade talks, none of them, none of the deals we’ve seen so far deal with any of the traditional irritants in economic relations between the United States and the rest of the world, or just about a tariff number. 

So if this number goes away, Trump is not simply starting from scratch. He has yet to build the team that is necessary to start a new policy. And we basically need to go all the way back to January 20th and start over. So big defeat for the president. As for corporate America and the American experience. 

Everything is in flux. We still don’t have a meaningful deal with Canada, Mexico or China, three of our four largest trading partners. And the deals we have with places like South Korea, Japan and the United Kingdom are wishy washy at best. And we’re almost designed to allow the other countries to avoid the tariffs in many ways. So these are sloppy deals that are very light on details that have yet to really be determined. 

And now we’re looking at probably having to start the entire thing over, which means if you are in the business of working in the United States, you still have no clarity. And the closest clarity you might get is on the other side of the Supreme Court ruling, which is at the moment unscheduled. So what we’re seeing is the beginnings of a deindustrialization of the American complex, because companies are now moving their facilities and their production capacity outside of the United States, knowing that they’ll have to pay tariffs when they bring stuff back in. 

But there’s no advantage to participating in a multi-state supply chain. Normally, with manufacturing, especially more advanced manufacturing. Different countries, different companies produce different pieces of whatever the final product is. And those pieces fly back and forth or ship back and forth across international boundaries as value add is added at every step with the United States with this tariff policy. 

You get taxed every time something comes in, even if it’s not a finished product. And so the solution is just to avoid the United States completely, make it entirely an international system, ship the final product to the United States consumer and pay the tariff once. So in its current form, we’re seeing a significant breakdown of American manufacturing. And that will continue until we have some clarity on what trade policy will produce. 

If the Supreme Court decides to reinstate the tariffs that will accelerate the industrialization of America. It’s the Supreme Court decides to ban the tariffs. Then we have to start over and we have all the uncertainty all over again from the beginning. So no matter how you look at this, this is not a great situation for the United States for at least the remainder of this calendar year.

American and Indian Relations Sour

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The global rise of right-wing populist governments has complicated the relationships between many of the dominant countries and leaders. The latest is America and India.

That trade deal everyone was optimistic about hasn’t quite played out so smoothly. India is facing steeper tariffs due to its ongoing or persistent trade relationship with Russia. Trump and Modi both expected special treatment for…being themselves; obviously, that didn’t play out for either of them.

Whether India decides to lean into its ties with Russia, form a stronger relationship with the US, or remain independent, its decision will carry huge implications for the global order. As these populist leaders continue to reject the old ways of doing things and seek to build new ones, small disagreements are more likely to intensify.

Transcript

Hey, all. Peter Zeihan, I’m here coming to you from Colorado. And today we’re going to talk about relations between India, the United States, which have apparently just dropped into the crapper in the last couple of weeks. If you go back a few weeks, you know, maybe two months, there were very positive signals coming out of both Washington, DC and New Delhi that a meaningful trade deal was imminent. 

And it’s all falling apart. And not only is there no deal, India is now paying some of the highest tariffs of any country selling the United States. Right now it’s about 50%. And Trump has said it’s probably going to go up based on how relations with the Russians degrade. The Indians are saying this isn’t fair because lots of countries trade with the Russians. 

And so why should India be the only countries paying a penalty? And I’m not saying that there’s nothing to that point, but it kind of misses the point of how this works and where it’s leading, the United States and India right now, as well as a number of other countries that include China and Turkey and Russia, have rightist populist governments that focus on what makes their country special versus everyone else. 

These are not the sort of governments that normally get along. Normally, these are the type of countries that find themselves duking it out on the battlefield with one another. The reason that hasn’t happened is because we’ve been in this weird moment in the post Cold War environment where the old consensus has basically prevented it from happening. 

One of the things that, right wing governments, right wing populist governments hate is the idea of a transnational group of liberals who impose some sort of policy on things. And, you know, maybe there is something to that. But keep in mind what that means. If you have a multiple of countries that include, but are not limited to Japan, Korea, Taiwan, the United States, Canada, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and on and on and on that broadly agree on the rules of the game and things like individual liberty and things like international cooperation and things like economic integration. 

Then there’s no reason for them to have an antagonist military approach to one another. There’s too many other things in the system that stabilize the relationship. But if you have countries that don’t see things that way, that focus on what makes countries different and unique, as opposed to on the same side, then you don’t have those are resting factors and you can get more conflict, not necessarily of the military form, but of any kind of form. 

And those are exactly the types of governments where you have rising in the world today. In the United States, we have Trump, in India, we have Modi in Turkey, we have a guy by the name of Erdogan who’s been dragging the country this direction for 25 years. In Japan, we are seeing a cracking of the post-World War Two consensus around centrist politics in, China. 

We’ve got chairman G who is now basically a tinpot dictator of a second world country. In Canada, we’ve had a bit of a hiccup where we looked like the government was going to go a different way in the last elections, in polls right now in Britain and in Italy and in France and in Germany, the hard right is the more popular than has ever been before. 

And of course, the Russians have been run by nationalists for quite some time. What this means is that consensus around liberal international values is breaking down in a way that we have not seen since the days before World War Two. And if you go back and look at your history, especially for the first half of the century and the period before World War one and World War two, we had a lot of governments that kind of fit the mold that we’re moving towards right now. 

Now, does that mean that we are doomed to have another major international conflagration on the scale, the World War? No, no different world? A couple big things to keep in mind. Number one, there are no countries, with the exception of the United States right now, that could fight in more than one theater. But if you don’t have things like trade and integration tying countries together, then it is really easy for small flaps to turn into big ones. 

What happened with India in particular is both Trump and Modi assumed that because the United States and India were so special that any deal would be done their way, and that’s just not how it works. Also, India has never really had a free trade agreement with anyone, so anyone who thought that a deal was imminent really hadn’t been paying attention to modern Indian economic structure or history. 

Where does this take us right now? Oh, India has to figure a few things out. During the Cold War, they were neutral, but broadly pro-Soviet. In fact, they were pro-Soviet. Even when the Soviets went away. And India now is a country that has agency in capacity. There are major refinery center. They are major stop on the path of all merchandise trade and energy trade between the Middle East and East Asia and between East Asia and Europe. 

They have a military that is capable for their needs. It can easily interrupt those flows, and they have an economy that is increasingly wealthier and increasingly diversified, increasingly technologically capable. What they don’t have is projection power, either economically or strategically. Their military is designed for the problems that they have. It’s designed for Pakistan, it’s designed for Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. 

It can’t project to the Middle East. It can’t project to East Asia. It is a unit to itself that defines how the Indians see themselves. They don’t see themselves as part of any coalition. They see themselves as their own thing. And if you put someone from a populist right in charge of that, if you accentuate that mindset, then the potential for arguments with everyone become very, very real. 

So India is one of those countries that matters, but it matters which side it doesn’t fall on because it empowers whoever is opposite. In the environment that we’re in today. We’re in this weird little situation where the country that the Indians are most dependent upon is China, which obviously makes Indian politics a little colorful these days. The Indians were thinking that their moment had arrived, that they had become strategically special and could have a leg in the American coalition without actually having to do anything that was never going to fly. 

But the Indians also, wherever they do put their foot, are going to matter. One way or another. So the debate right now is whether or not they should buddy up with the Russians again. If they do, they’re bearing almost all the risk. The Russians would get almost all of the reward. But this is what happens when you have a rightist government that sees themselves as special in a way that maybe doesn’t necessarily jive with strategic reality. 

Modi is learning that, Trump is learning that. And in time, pretty much all of governments like this will learn it. And when that happens, decision making becomes a lot more hostile because no longer are they rebelling against the existing order, they’re looking to build their own. And when that happens, we start getting new strategic relationships and hostilities. And that can boil up into something a lot more substantial.

Trump Trade Talks: Japan Gets a Deal

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Japan is one of the few countries who has been willing to step into the batter’s box and take whatever Trump throws at them. This time at the plate, they were tossed a 15% tariff on Japanese goods (with some big caveats).

Tariffs on some of the most important exports, like cars and semiconductors, have been deferred for future negotiations. Which means Japan will be back at the plate in no time. The Japanese also pledged investment into US infrastructure via state-linked commodity institutions. Trump claims most of the profits will go to American pockets, but the Japanese disagree with that interpretation.

As is the running theme with most of Trump’s “trade deals”, this is predominantly fluff and the real talks are yet to begin.

Transcript

Peter Zeihan here, continuing our series on the new deals that the Trump administration has announced for trade with our major trading partners. Today, we’re going to tackle Japan. The Japanese situation is very similar to the European situation. And then it looks like the Trump administration, Donald Trump personally came up with a few numbers, walked into the room, said, I want this, this and this and this. 

And the Japanese nodded their head and smiled and say, sure. The headline figure for tariffs going, for, for goods coming from Japan. The United States is now 15%. And unlike in Europe, where there’s not a lot of back and forth in manufactured goods, to the degree that industrial substitution might happen with Japan, there’s a fair amount. 

Japan is an industrialized economy that doesn’t have a lot of consumption because of their demographic bomb. And so they export basic goods. Intermediate goods, processed goods and finished goods to the United States. So there’s a lot of room for things to move around if that ends up being the final number for the long term. 

But that’s probably not going to be the final number for the long term. The most interesting piece of the trade deal, as it’s currently been announced, is that on things like cars and semiconductors, those are going to be pushed off to another day. So even the Trump administration is saying that this is the beginning of the negotiations, not the end. 

Here’s the problem. Japan doesn’t make a whole lot of semiconductor, and the United States doesn’t make a huge number of semiconductors. But both of us absolutely dominate certain pieces of the supply chain. So the United States makes the silicon dioxide that basically goes into all of the world’s semiconductors. And we also do almost all of the design. The Japanese do some design, but they absolutely dominate the photo mask, which is, for lack of a better phrase, really fancy sunscreen. 

So when you were throwing the lasers at the chips, you can trim to different depths to achieve different things. These steps are not replicated in either country to the same degree that they would need to be. If you wanted to have a purely national semiconductor supply chain system. So the Trump administration, by pushing this off, is leaving unresolved the question of what the United States is. 

Semiconductor policy is going to be are we only interested in the last step, fabrication, which is what the Taiwanese do? Is that what we want? And we still want to bring in all the inputs that we need from the rest of the world, or do we want to completely indigenous semiconductor system. The first one is $100 billion question that would take 10 to 15 years. 

The second one is a $5 trillion question. That would take 20 to 40 years. And the Trump administration, to this point, hasn’t figured out how it wants to approach that, because that’s a huge tax, no matter which version of the question it’s going to be. And so things with Japan in that regard are being put off. Something similar is happening with drug manufacturing because the Japanese aren’t the ones that make the really cheap drugs. 

They make the more advanced drugs. And if you want to do that at home, you need a whole support chain going up to it. Okay, that’s kind of piece one. Piece two is a promise of investment, unlike the Europeans, where everything is done at the nation state level. And so negotiating with the European Union is a little loosey goosey. 

Japan is a sovereign nation. when you negotiate with Tokyo, you’re negotiating with Tokyo. And Japan is a country that over the course of the last 50 years, has realized that they have a poor system for raw material production and processing. So they’ve built a number of state entities to basically compensate for that. You basically throw state money at entities who are kind of relieve from the normal laws of supply and demand, and go out into the world and make investments that under normal circumstances, Americans wouldn’t make in order to source lithium or oil or whatever it happens to be, according to the terms of the current deal, those institutions will now start investing 

in American infrastructure in order to produce products in the United States. And 90% of the profits from those institutions will go to American entities. So two problems with that. Number one, these Japanese financial institutions that are government linked, they usually go into raw commodity production and processing. That’s not what Donald Trump said they’re going to do. 

He says they’re going to go into high end manufacturing. So already you’re talking about a significant shift in their mission and outside of their normal realm of expertise. The second problem is the idea that the Japanese will provide all of the money, but take hardly any of the profit. That’s a stretch. And as soon as Trump made these announcements, the Japanese like, that’s not what we agreed to at all. 

So unfortunately, in a similar manner to what we have going on with the European situation, this is the start of talks. This is the Trump declaration of what they want. Here we are. When this all started back on April 2nd. We’re now see May, June, July. We’re now three and a half months later. And we’re only now getting the initial declaration of what Donald Trump actually wants to see. 

Now, this is progress. But if you’re talking about the re fabrication of financial entities at the government level in Japan as the starting point for whatever this later deal is going to be, you’re still talking about projects that are going to be realized over the course of a decade or more. Not the sort of thing that can have any impact on things like the trade deficit on any meaningful time frame. 

We are once again, at the beginning of this process. We are nowhere near the end.

Trump Trade Talks: US-EU Strike a Deal

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The Trump administration and the EU have announced a new trade deal. It’s more of a political headline than a meaningful agreement, but let’s break it down.

The agreement includes a 15% tariff on European goods, $750 billion in US energy exports to Europe over three years, and $500 billion in investments from EU institutions in US infrastructure. There is a lot to going on here, but the bottom line is that the “deal” was made with the EU, NOT the member countries. So, until the individual countries agree or decide to move forward with this…it’s just another wish list from Trump that’s not likely to go anywhere.

Up until now, these talks have just been political fluff. The structural issues in the US-EU trade relationship remain untouched and will stay like that until the real negotiations begin.

Transcript

Hey, I’m Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from a suddenly stormy Colorado. Today we’re launching off a new series on the status of the trade deals that the Trump administration has announced. We’re going to start with the European Union, which is by far the biggest. Now, Donald Trump has said this is the biggest trade deal ever. It doesn’t even make the top 25 list, actually, for the United States. 

And the problem is that a lot of the things that have supposedly been agreed to can’t happen. So, let’s start with the headline where we are at the moment. Then we’ll go into the detail. So the headline is that Trump was threatening the European Union with originally a 20% tariff, and that went up to 30%, then eventually 50%. 

And now it’s going to be 15%. And the Europeans agree to not retaliate, with their own tariffs. So there are a lot of folks across Europe who think that this is a particularly unfair deal. But, you know, whatever. 15% on European trade, Europe collectively is probably our fourth largest trading partner. That would have an impact on a lot of things. 

The United States and Europe have a relatively robust trading relationship that’s built on intermediate manufactured goods and then finished things like cars and aerospace that go both ways, as well as the United States sending a fair amount of energy products and processed materials, whether it’s lumber, cement or whatever. To the Europeans, the Europeans, of course, send a lot of luxury goods to the United States. 

French wine, of course, is on that list. Kentucky bourbon goes the other direction. You know, these are these are culturally intertwining trade types. And so throwing a 15% tariff on what’s coming from Europe to the United States is obviously going to require a squeeze in people’s budgets and redirect how things are going elsewhere. The thing to keep in mind, primarily when you’re talking about European trade, however, is that most of the stuff that we buy from Europe is not stuff that can really be sourced from other locations. 

So you’re either going to be looking at a reduction in demand as prices go up, or a withering of that trade relationship. So this is not one of those trade relationships where you’re going to see new industrial plant coming online in the United States to compensate. It’s not that kind of trade. That’s kind of the first piece. 

That’s the headline piece. That’s where we are. That all takes effect August 1st. The other two pieces are kind of loosey goosey and are very Trumpian. Trump has announced and the Europeans have said that, yes, this is broadly what we agreed to, that over the next three years, the Europeans will buy three quarters of $1 trillion in American energy products. 

Now, the energy product is defined very, very loosely to include things that don’t exist, like small modular nuclear reactors, or things that the Europeans just don’t buy from us like, for the most part, crude oil. Mostly we’re talking here about natural gas and liquefied form, but the number makes no sense. 

$750 billion in U.S. energy products over three years, the United States only exports a little over $300 billion of energy products total globally. So the idea that all of a sudden it’s all going to be and go to the United States, that would actually be a massive reduction in the take home pay for U.S. energy exporters. Right now, U.S. LNG exporters in particular, are in kind of the catbird seat because they look to see whoever is having a crunch, and then they send LNG there. 

So they get spot prices that are very, very, very high. If we were to send everything to the continent of Europe, we would be talking about more term contracts where the renumeration cost would be significantly lower because of the reliability. You would probably see U.S. LNG exporters see their profits drop by well over two thirds. And you’d probably drive a quarter of them out of the business if this agreement were to happen, which it won’t, because the European Union is not an economic entity. 

It is an international political organization among the member states. And the member states are the ones who decide what they buy from where. So the EU, the European Union institution, the executive arm, has committed to buy in the stuff, but their annual budget for the entire European Union is under $200 billion a year. So no, this is not going to happen at all. 

And if it did happen, it would be really bad for American energy exporters. That’s problem. One problem too, is that supposedly there’s going to be a half $1 trillion of investment by European entities in the United States. And again, the EU is a political institution that doesn’t have that kind of budget. It has agreed on behalf of the member states, but the member states are under no legal liability whatsoever to actually carry out the agreement. 

So what’s probably going to happen is a few months from now, these talks will continue again, because this is not a final deal. This is a memorandum of understanding for what the Trump administration would like to see happen. And even if this was a final deal, it would then have to be ratified by all the member states. But the EU institutions don’t have the political or legal authority to negotiate for their member states on behalf of things like energy and investment treaties. 

That is a bilateral deal. Those talks have not even begun. And from what we’re hearing from both the Trump administration and from Brussels, is that Trump basically came into the room with a few numbers, said, I want this, this, this, and this. And the Europeans kind of nod and smiled, assuming that this would end the conversation for the moment, which appears to be what has happened. 

But in terms of the real talks, the things that might address the irritants in the relationship, of which there are many, those haven’t even started.

Copper Imports Slapped with 50% Tariff

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I know it feels like we’re all trapped in a Sisyphean nightmare with all the discussions of tariffs, but don’t shoot the messenger. Trump’s latest move is a 50% tariff on copper imports is going to do a lot of harm.

You all know that the US needs to build out its industrial capacity in the face of deglobalization, and copper happens to be an important part of that. Building domestic copper production would take over a decade and all these pesky tariffs are only extending that timeline.

Transcript

Hey, all Peter Zeihan here come from Colorado… hiking season. Unfortunately, I can still get the news, so I know that we now have a 50% tariff courtesy of Donald Trump. That is going to be coming to copper imports beginning on August 1st. Let’s say that you are someone who is really concerned about the US copper industry. 

I am not. I’m really not. But if you are, there are a few things that you do before you get larger volumes of copper from domestic production. Number one, you go out and explore to find the deposit you’re after. Number two, you build physical infrastructure, road and rail to get to that system that can handle heavy freight. 

Third, you build a processing facility to separate the copper ore from the rest of the rock and then an intermediate processing facility to turn it to something called blister copper, which is roughly 98% pure. It gets rid of a lot of the sulfur. You then take that blister copper, and you take it to another facility that you need to build. 

That’s a proper smelter that will turn it into that, you know, the reddish orange shiny stuff that you use in everything. And then copper then goes on to be in almost everything that involves electricity. So it is an important material. But putting a 50% tariff on it on the front end retards that entire process. And from start to finish, the entire process takes somewhere between 10 and 15 years. 

So if your goal was to facilitate copper production, step one, would it be offer, say, tax credits for exploration? Go ahead and build the physical infrastructure and get started on the smelters. All of that is very power intensive. So you all sort of need some more electricity. By putting the tariff on the front end, you’re basically retarding the whole process rather than speeding it. 

That’s a problem. One. Problem two is that the Chinese are literally dying out. And while they are big players in the copper sector, and that will have to be shut out at some point, that’s not my primary concern at this point. My primary concern is we have a limited amount of time in the United States to build out our industrial plant to prepare for the Chinese just not being there, and that means roughly doubling the size of the industrial plant. 

And for that first stage, doubling the size. There are four main inputs that you need. The first one is copper that now costs 50% more than it used to or will on August 1st. The second item is steel, primarily but not exclusively for structure and interior structure support. I think I-beams that, courtesy of an existing a Trump tariff, is now 50% more than it used to be. 

Third is aluminum, primarily, but not exclusively used in cladding and especially Hvac systems. That is now 60% more than it used to be because of Trump tariffs. And the fourth thing you need is a labor force that’s willing to do the construction work. Now in the United States, historically, for the last 40 years, most of that work has been done by immigrants from Mexico. 

And Central America. But as you may have noticed, the Trump administration has basically launched a poll grim against illegal migrants. Now, I don’t want to get into a broad debate of the pros and cons of immigration at this moment, but let’s just talk about where this policy in its current form leads. The Trump administration wants to deport about a million people a year, which carried out for a few years, would basically remove the illegal migrant community in its entirety construction is the industry that they are most involved in. 

Agriculture is number two. And what the Trump administration has discovered is that going after people who have committed crimes, it’s actually kind of hard because it’s a law enforcement issue and you have to do investigations and arrest them one at a time. That’s not going to get you to a million people. So instead, they’re going after people that they know about. 

They’re going to churches. They’re revoking legal status for people who say, I’ve been brought in from Venezuela or Haiti out of economic or political persecution. They’re going to people’s court hearings where they’re going to get ruled on for a, say, a green card and arresting them before they can before the judge, because, you know, these are people where they know where they are. 

So the four inputs that we need to prepare for a post China world are now more expensive. And every time the cost of something goes up, you can do less of it. So if these policies continue for any appreciable amount of time, we can test that economic boom that I’ve been talking about for years. Goodbye. Because we will not have the industrial plant that is necessary to produce the goods. 

We need to continue to lead the lives that we have been leading. It’s almost as if a Russian agent was whispering things in Trump’s ear and trying to convince them to do the things that would be most against our best interests. Oh, wait. 

Tariff Day Is Here, Again!

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Tariff Day is almost here and it’s looking like it might be another series of recycled tariff rates layered with vague threats.

This ongoing series of tariffs has stalled the economy, putting business investment and construction in limbo. And since there is no one to negotiate with on the American side, I’m not sure when or if any real deals/negotiations will take place. The only movement we’ve seen on this front is with the UK, and calling that a trade deal is still a bit of a stretch. Allies like Japan are starting to feel a bit betrayed by this endless cycle of tariffs.

All there is to do now is wait and see if any meaningful strategy appears from this Tariff Day.

Transcript

Peter Zeihan here. Coming to you from Colorado. Today is the 8th of July. We’re going to send this out today and again tomorrow for people who missed it. We’re coming up on another tariff day where Trump says he’s going to reset tariffs for pretty much every country in the world. So far today, he has released about a dozen letters that are basically read exactly the same, except for the header and one number where he’s basically told people what their tariff rates are going to be moving forward. 

Several things from this. First, the spread of countries that are in this first list go from Tunisia and Bosnia on the low end to Korea and Japan on the high end. So countries that are just nothing to countries that are firm allies, all of them got the same letter. There’s no sign of meaningful negotiations with any of them. 

Trump just picked the same number he’d had before. Maybe round it a little bit, put it in there again. Nothing has really changed. And he’s now telling them that they have until August 1st to renegotiate, which means, number two, we are still in this hell limbo. We’ve had over 150 tariff policy since the 20th of January. We now have the threat of a couple hundred. 

And no one really knows what to do. New business, construction spending. The United States has basically gone flat. Nobody wants to start a new project because nobody knows what the rules of the game are, and based by many versions of the tariffs that are in place right now, it actually penalizes people to invest in the North American supply chain system. 

It’s actually cheaper to say, build your entire manufacturing base outside of the United States and just pay the tariff once on its way in. If you want to have an integrated supply chain where countries do what they’re better at. That actually you’re penalized. Okay. What’s number three? Japan. Japan is the country to watch most closely here it is one of the countries that has now gotten the letter. 

It is a country that entered into good faith negotiations and is now a country that it’s kind of talking shit about Trump a little bit. If you remember back to Trump one, there was, about a half a dozen major trade deals that were negotiated or renegotiated, which included NAFTA, which included a trade deal with the Koreans and included a trade deal with Japan. 

And the Japanese came to the conclusion that Trump represented the future of American economic nationalism. And so they needed to figure out a way to get in on Trump’s good side, on my good side, so they could be part of the American future moving forward. And so they made quite a few concessions that had never been made in trade deals before in order to get that agreement. 

And then we get to April 2nd and Trump tears it off, and we get to July 9th and he tears it up again. And so the Japanese are left wondering, like, you know, even if you go out of your way to seek a deal with Donald Trump, even if you offer him everything he has demanded, it still means nothing. 

And that has really colored the other trade negotiations, because if Japan, the country that has bent over backwards to try to make this work by Trump’s own terms can’t get a deal, why should anyone else try? And there’s the fourth thing no one can try. Trump still hasn’t staffed up the Commerce Department or his own office, or much less the U.S. Trade Representative, which is normally responsible for negotiating trade deals. 

So if you are a country out there trying to negotiate with Trump, there’s no one to speak to because the only two people who are handling the talks are Trump himself and the Commerce secretary. And those are both full time jobs that normally are not led by trade talks. We have only ever once gotten a trade deal with anything less than ten months of negotiating. 

And so far from the rhetoric that we saw back in April that people were lining up to talk, maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. There was no one to speak with. And so no meaningful negotiations have really happened. And the only trade deal we actually have right now is with the Brits, who basically just agreed to buy a bunch of planes in order to get a lower number. 

And that was the talks. I mean, there’s a lot of real irritants in the relationship with the UK, and none of them were addressed at all. So that just leaves what the rest of us think about this. Obviously business investment is down sharply. We’re actually seeing new builds drop down to levels we haven’t seen since Covid, which is really bad. 

But the final thing to keep in mind is that this is not the end. Trump has already made it very clear that his new August 1st deadline is very loosey goosey. So August 1st is the new, July 9th is the new April 2nd. And there’s a reason why Wall Street is just kind of ignoring this. I’m sure you’ve heard of the taco trade. 

Trump always chickens out. Well, they’re now calling it Taco Tuesday, which is actually kind of funny and clever. Anyway, but until this is resolved one way or another, until you know what the numbers are. No one knows what they need to do to prepare for what’s next. And so everybody’s stopped.

Can Retaliatory Tariffs on Brazil Save Bolsonaro? + Live Q&A

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Over the past 6 months, we’ve seen Trump use tariffs for everything under the sun. But the Brazilians just got hit with a 50% tariff for an unorthodox reason…because their former president is being prosecuted.

Jair Bolsonaro is facing legal charges for attempting a coup after losing an election. Trump happens to be fond of Bolsonaro, so he’s attempting to use tariffs to get him off scot-free. And no, there’s not a significant trade deficit or high-value imports that can used to justify this away with.

This is a flat out rule of law issue that will come back to haunt the United States for decades to come.

Transcript

Hey all Peter Zeihan here, coming from Colorado. Hiking season! The world won’t leave me alone. Of course. I need to go someplace with less coverage. Anyway. I want to talk about today is we have another, another, another, another 50% tariff going into place, this one against Brazil. Now, Brazil is one of those countries that kind of site and released back on April 2nd when those big game board sheets came out, when Trump announced what the tariff levels were going to be for everybody. 

We don’t have the goods deficit that’s we’re talking about with Brazil. So Brazil qualified for the low 10% on everybody tariff. And that’s where it was left. But, last week Donald Trump decided, nope. He is starting to expand his idea that tariffs are good to punish countries that are doing things he doesn’t want, even if they have nothing to do with economic issues. 

It is beyond questionable whether this is legal under American law. But until Congress steps up and acts which I don’t anticipate anytime soon, it is what it is. Trump’s reason for putting this 50% tariff on Brazil. We’re going to stop upheld that idea. Trump’s reason for doing a 50% tariff on Brazil, is that the Brazilians are in the process. 

Brazilian government is in the process of prosecuting a guy by the name of Bolsonaro, who’s a former president who attempted a coup after he lost an election. Sound familiar? Anyway, Trump is saying that unless the prosecution stops and Bolsonaro is allowed back into the political system, that this tariff will go into place. Now, we do buy a bunch of things from Brazil, but it’s mostly relatively low value added commodities, some really crappy beef, some agricultural products, things like iron ore. 

Brazil is a very low value added economy. And Trump, on ideological grounds for a mix of reasons, finds himself allied with Bolsonaro and opposed to, Lula, who is the current president who hails from the left side of the political spectrum, whereas Bolsonaro is from the right. It’s, it’s a messy comparison. Brazilian politics are significantly different from the United States, so don’t over, over under those two hoods. 

Anyway, I for a long time have not been a fan of Lula, but not because of rule of law issues. He’s anti-American to the point that’s borderline pathological and is willing to even sell his own country down the river in order to achieve a degree of independence from the United States. Which is just dumb, in my opinion. 

So, for example, when he was president the first time around, he basically invited the Chinese in to form joint ventures with everything that the Brazilians were doing. And throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s, the Brazilians actually made a lot of progress in moving up the value added scale. 

Their oil company, Petrobras, is one of the world’s best, especially a deepwater. They had a construction company that was world class, and they had a really dense concentration of midsized companies that were really pushing the technological envelope in all of their products, and they were globally competitive. Well, the Chinese formed joint ventures with all of these companies, stole all the technology, took it back home, subsidized the crap out of building an alternative industrial plant, and then drove all the Brazilian producers out of business. 

Strategically stupid, economically stupid. But what’s going on with Bolsonaro is something different. This is a rule of law issue. When Trump did his little attempted push back in 2020. Yeah. 2020, he eventually got away with it. And he eventually returned to power and pardoned everyone who was basically a coconspirator. Bolsonaro hasn’t had that kind of advance. 

He was both smarter and dumber, smarter. And that he learned from Trump’s failure back in 2020 and went for a much more direct assault on the Brazilian Congress, trying to basically take it out of the equation. And then when that didn’t work, he fled the country, came coming to Florida, ironically, which was like much better attempt and much better demonstration of actual guilt. 

So no one in Brazil really thinks that this case is going to go anywhere except for with Bolsonaro in jail, unless he’s pardoned in order to say he’ll the political spectrum. Anyway, for Trump, this gets a little bit too close to home. And so he’s now threatening Brazil, with economic retribution for their rule of law commitment. 

Now, for those of you who don’t follow Latin American politics all that much, Latin America overall is new to democracy and is new to rule of law. Most of the countries back in the 60s, 70s and 80s, were military dictatorships. And when those dictatorships fell and in many cases, like in Brazil, actually actively turned over power to the civilian system, it went fairly smooth. 

The problem has been maintaining the center of the state so that law enforcement can work, because when you go from a system that’s pretty corrupt with a bunch of colonels and generals basically calling all the shots and getting whatever they want to a system that’s much more free form, it takes a while for law enforcement to kind of step in the gap when the military steps back and to reassert a degree of security. 

And Brazil in particular, has had a problem with that. And so it has some of the highest crime rates in the world. So most American foreign policy since that transition, which happened in the late 80s and into the 90s, has been focusing on encouraging rule of law across Latin America. Whenever can happen. And you can find a lot of faults in American foreign policy in any region, specifically Latin America. 

But I would argue that it’s been broadly successful on at least this one point. And so to have the American president now trying to go ramshackle the opposite direction and ripping up rule of law, is a horrible idea. Because if your goals are to get Latin American countries to assist with enforcement of U.S. immigration preferences and to assist with limiting the amount of narcotics can can come from Latin America to the United States, you need a relatively strong state and knocking over the rule of law at the top is arguably the dumbest thing that you could do. 

And yet, here we are.