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In this episode of Borderland, Vince sits down with renowned geopolitical strategist Peter Zeihan to dive into the complex realities of immigration, U.S. policy, and Mexico’s uncertain future.

Peter breaks down what both the left and right get wrong about America’s immigration debate, and offer his perspective on the models that could reshape U.S. policy. He also takes a hard look at Mexico’s new president and the growing threat driven by cartels.

He is also the New York Times bestselling author of The Accidental Superpower, The Absent Superpower, Disunited Nations, and The End of the World Is Just the Beginning.

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Patreon Live Q&A + President Biden Is Making a Trip to Angola

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President Biden is making a trip out to Africa (since recording, this trip has been postponed due to national weather issues). No, he’s not going on safari; he’s looking to shake some babies and kiss some hands over in Angola.

During the Cold War, Angola buddied up with the Soviets. Despite the conflict of interest, American oil companies still helped Angola make oil for Europe. Play that forward to the present, and Angola is producing around 2 million barrels of crude per day. And while that’s something, the US has its oil needs covered, but the Angolans still have something the Americans need.

Angola provides a gateway to the mines in Africa rich with minerals and natural resources, and the US would love to get a key to that “gate”. So, the US is investing in things like railway infrastructure, in order to help these resources funnel directly to the US or Europe.

The US isn’t the only interested party though. Angola is encouraging foreign investment and benefiting from the competition. Biden’s visit highlights how committed the US is in developing these ties with Angola and securing a supply chain for these resources.

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Hey, everybody. Peter Zeihan coming to you from Washington, D.C. That smell of auditorium behind me. Today we’re going to talk about an upcoming trip that Joe Biden has to Angola. Now, during the Cold War, the United States and Angola were definitely on opposite sides. There was a civil war there that the Soviets and the Cubans and later the Chinese were supporting.

On one side, we were supposedly on the—oh, hello, that’s a big-ass squirrel that seems to think I have food for it. Anyway, during that time, the Americans were on one side, the Soviets were on the other side, and American oil companies were helping the Soviet-backed government generate oil that was then sold to Europe.

And, you know, Cold War, weird stuff. Anyway, bottom line is that the Cold War is long since over. Americans are saying bygones, and the Angolans are a little curious as to the details, but they’re open to some sort of a deal. It’s not that Angola is all that important to the United States for its own sake.

I mean, yes, they produce one and a half to two million barrels of crude a day, but the U.S. is the world’s largest refined product exporter now and the world’s largest crude producer. So it’s not like we need it for us or even for our allies anymore. The issue has to do with mining. Africa is kind of the great frontier for large-scale mining, particularly on a belt of countries going from Congo south.

This is the old Cecil Rhodes group. Cecil Rhodes is the guy who basically founded modern South Africa. And from the copper belt in southern Congo, there’s a series of collection railroads that link together and form a spine going down Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, and ultimately reaching the better ports in South Africa. Well, there’s something called the Benguela roadway or the Liberta corridor that cuts across Angola to the Atlantic that intersects this line.

And ever since apartheid ended in South Africa, the government has become increasingly dysfunctional, and the maintenance on the main spine railway has steadily degraded to the point that it’s pretty rough in a lot of places. So the idea the United States has is if we can rehabilitate the Liberta corridor and rebuild the Benguela Railway, which dates back to the Portuguese occupation a century ago…

Oh. Then there’s another route for this stuff to get out, and it would be going to the Atlantic instead of the Indian Ocean basin. And that’s closer to the United States and Europe, as opposed to China. So it’s become a bit of a tug-of-war that the Angolans are encouraging, because everybody’s spending infrastructure money in their country.

And the people who won the civil war, the pro-Soviets, are a minority. So now we have the group that the United States used to support, which is closer to the majority. That’s kind of an oppressed population. So once again, there’s all kinds of weird geopolitics going on in this southwest African nation. At this point, building a railway is pretty straightforward.

The United States is basically invested in this project as one of its bigger overseas aid projects, and it’s probably going to be completed and operational within a couple of years. Too little, too late? Time will tell. But the country is very much in play. And so, of course, Uncle Joe’s going there.

How a Small Town in NC Could Disrupt Global Semiconductor Production

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We’re hitting the backroads today and chatting about the small town of Spruce Pine, North Carolina. What this town lacks in population, it makes up in its (extremely important) quartz mines.

These mines in Spruce Pine play a critical role in semiconductor manufacturing, thanks to the very pure quartz found here. This pure quartz is used to make the crucibles in which silicon is melted down without contamination. And no this isn’t just one of the many places that has this stuff…Spruce Pine accounts for an estimated 70-90% of the world’s crucible-grade quartz.

Hurricane Helene has put these mines in jeopardy with the heavy rains and flooding that hit the area. This has shut down the roads and the mines, and recovery efforts will be stalled until the larger towns are taken care of. This means the mines could be out of commission for a while, impacting the supply chains for the semiconductor fabrication plants.

We’re not in the red-zone yet, since most facilities keep a decent reserve on hand. However, if the production of this high-quality silicon is affected, we could be looking at major disruptions down the road.

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Hey everybody. Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from DC in the National Mall. And today we’re going to talk about a little bit of hurricane damage that you probably were unaware of. Specifically, the town of Spruce Pine, the town of like 2300 people in western North Carolina. And the issue is that this is a town that produces sand. So roughly 150 million years ago, as Southerners tell time, there was a series of non-volcanic intrusions into the area that is now part of the Appalachians.

And we got all of these feldspar, quartz, and mica deposits. Until recently, the feldspar is what everybody was after. So you’ve heard of Pyrex? Feldspar is used in the high-quality glass that they produce, but the rest of it, especially the quartz, was basically used as concrete aggregate in construction and local road production. Nothing special. Then the semiconductor sector took off.

Well, it’s getting really weird and moving behind some of the construction equipment that is everywhere in DC right now. Anyway, then the semiconductor industry got started, and semiconductor is made primarily of silicon, and silicon is basically just processed quartz. What they discovered was that the type of quartz that exists in the Spruce Pine mines was so pure that it could be melted into something called a crucible, which is basically a little bowl.

The crucibles then could be used to melt other, lesser-quality silicon. You have to do the melting in a very, very, very, very high-quality crucible, otherwise the crucible will introduce flaws and other materials into your silicon, and then you don’t get the electrical properties you are after. The sand that comes out of these Spruce Pine mines is so pure that it is used for 70 to 90% of global crucibles to make the semiconductors.

They also use the other silicon they have there as well. And it’s also very good for that. But it’s the crucible-quality silicon that you’re really after. Anyhow, the two companies control the space. They’re not very chatty when it comes to the details. About 70% of the labor force in Spruce Pine—population 2300—works in the mines.

And the miners are—well, they got two feet of rain dropped on them, which did a significant amount of damage to the mines, although the miners are not telling us what. They’re focusing on helping the people recover, and the people can’t recover because the city is cut off. There is one road out of the mine. It’s been largely destroyed, and it’s going to be at least a month, probably closer to two, before we have some idea of whether or not it can be repaired to a level that allows equipment to come in to, say, pump the water out of the mines.

And this is not a priority for things like FEMA, because Asheville, population 100,000, is also cut off, and it’s on the interstate. So everyone’s going to focus on that first. We’ve got quite a while before we know whether or not the mine has been damaged sufficiently to imperil long-term production of this very specific type of quartz silicon.

As to everybody else, most of the folks that make these things, most of the semiconductor fabs who use this stuff, and most of the purification facilities, probably have about three months of reserves to use. So there’s no immediate disruption from supply, but we’re going to have to wait one to two months before we find out if this temporary interruption is something more significant. And if it is, then all bets are off, because this is where we get almost all of it.

Again, while you can make a crucible out of lesser silicon, that lesser silicon will then contaminate whatever it is you’re trying to smelt, which means that high-grade semiconductor-quality silicon will not be available in sufficient quantities to do more than a third of what we currently expect our semiconductor industry to create. That could be a very big deal. We won’t know for a couple of months.

The Downward Spiral of the Chinese Economy

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If you ever need to make an online dating profile, be sure to add “long walks on the beach discussing the economic challenges facing China” to the list…I promise you’ll double the dates in no time.

The Chinese have been struggling with economic growth since the beginning of COVID, missing their growth rate target repeatedly and on the verge of a recession. Attempts to bail themselves out continue to fall short, likely because these stimulus measures do not address the core problems (that the population is aging and private consumption is plummeting).

That’s not even an exhaustive list either. The Chinese banking system is severely strained as well. With the government pushing for more lending at low/negative rates, the banking sector is in dire straits. Until major reform hits China, the spiral down will continue…and a larger financial crisis will continue to creep closer and closer.

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Hey everybody, Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from the South Carolina coast. And today, we’re going to talk about the normal things I talk about when I’m walking on the beach, and that’s Chinese finance. Okayyy? Let’s get that out with a straight face. Okay. For those of you who have been watching the Chinese markets and the economic recovery—or lack thereof—over the last year, you’ll notice it’s been kind of a rough year for them.

By their own statistics, they’re not going to hit their 5% GDP growth target for the year. And if you talk to private folks who have a more realistic understanding of what’s going on, the China that is what’s left of the Chinese bureaucratic system has basically gutted its own statistics to the point where they’re becoming literally useless. We are talking about a borderline recession.

We’re not in China, and this isn’t new. The Chinese economy stumbled in the fourth quarter of 2019 with the onset of Covid. And aside from a couple of blips here and there, it’s kind of been down in the dumps ever since. It wouldn’t surprise me if we had an actual forensic audit done on Chinese books and found that the Chinese economy writ large over that entire period was actually roughly the same size it was before.

The data isn’t out of malfeasance. It’s just the system is outdated. It’s a flag, so you don’t get accurate data at the local level, much less at the national level.

Anyway, in the last couple of weeks, we’ve seen a huge number of measures—not huge stimulus, two different things. They’ve tweaked the mortgage rate a little bit and reduced something called the reserve requirement, which is the percentage of bank deposits that have to be held back at the bank in order to make loans.

All of these things are mildly stimulatory, but they don’t get to the core issue that China now faces: it has so few people under 50 that there just isn’t much of a consumption base to be boosted. And that’s before you consider that the government of Chairman Xi Jinping really doesn’t see private consumption as a meaningful driver of economic growth.

From an ideological point of view, the idea that people would spend on themselves as opposed to spending on the state is something that seems to be a little alien to him based on his rhetoric and speeches. Anyhow, that also kind of ignores the point. We’ve talked a lot about consumption, investment, and trade.

But something we don’t talk about very often are Chinese banks, which are the method by which capital makes its way into the Chinese economy—like in most economies. And that is also completely broken. The Chinese method of encouraging economic activity is to lean on the banks so they lend to everyone for everything, often at zero to negative rates once you adjust for inflation. And when you put a bottomless supply of capital in front of anyone, they will gorge on it, and you will get economic growth.

But whether that growth is stable or sustainable is, of course, questionable. Basically, for those of you in the United States, I’ve just described subprime, Enron, or the savings and loan crisis. It’s all fine until someone actually has to start valuing the loans that are on the books. And when you flood the market with credit, a lot of these loans just don’t work out.

In the U.S., we call these “non-performing loans” (NPLs). If 1.5% by value of a bank’s loans go into that NPL category, then a government regulator will knock on your door and force you to change your policies to bring that number down. Once you get over 2%, that’s when banks start snapping like matchsticks because there isn’t enough margin on those loans to grow out of them.

Well, in China, the margin is sometimes zero or even negative. And because the concept of fiduciary responsibility doesn’t exactly translate well into Mandarin, many of these loans that should have never been made have gone bad. By most internal estimates, China’s total NPL ratio for the entire banking sector is somewhere between 5.5% and 6%, which would basically mean their entire banking sector is, well, out of luck.

This doesn’t mean every bank is there, but for every bank that is below that number, there’s at least one or two above it. As a rule, the least stable banks are the ones that aren’t on the coast. Investment inflows, export activity, and foreign money mean coastal banks tend to run tighter ships.

But as you move inland, especially to poorer, more agricultural areas, it’s all about Chinese state banks, whether they’re the big four national banks or smaller regional ones. So, if you want to talk about the future of Chinese economic growth, it’s not going to be boosted by changing the reserve requirement.

It’s going to be improved by getting the banks into a position where they can actually function a bit more normally. But that can’t happen until they deal with the NPLs. In the U.S., every time we’ve dealt with NPLs, it’s only been because we had a recession linked to the financial sector, like the subprime crisis of 2007–2009 or the savings and loan crisis in the 1980s. China will need to go through something similar.

But you’re talking about something at least an order of magnitude worse. And in relative terms, because the U.S. economy is much stronger than China’s, you’re talking about something even worse than that. So, it’s nice that the Chinese stock market is having a little bit of a pop, but none of the underlying issues have been addressed. Trying to make credit easier when credit is already overextended will simply make the inevitable crash that much harder.

How Effective Are the Israeli Defense Systems?

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Israeli defense systems are getting put through the ringer as of late, so let’s talk through each of these systems, how they’re doing, and what the US involvement looks like.

The Iron Dome is what we hear about most often; this is what intercepted the rockets from Hezbollah. This system is designed to counter unsophisticated rockets, and thanks to Israel’s small size, it does this quite well.

When the bigger stuff starts to fly, like ballistic missiles, that’s when the Arrow system comes into play. While its been successful against the recent attacks from Iran, the US was helping out on the tracking/targeting side of things, so we don’t have a true measure for how good this system is on its own.

That helping hand from the US is key, not only because its helping the Israelis defend themselves, but the US is also getting some valuable, real-world testing for tech that can be used back at home. So, its a bit of a win-win here.

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Hey, everybody. Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from the South Carolina coast. And we’re going to talk about technology that’s been in the news a little bit, and that’s missile defense, specifically the Israeli system that has proven to be remarkably successful in recent years, both at shooting down Hezbollah rockets coming in from Lebanon and, more recently, ballistic missiles coming in from Iran.

A couple of things to keep in mind—three things to keep in mind. Number one, there is more than one system here. The first system is called Iron Dome, and that is the anti-rocket system deployed in northern Israel that’s been intercepting the rockets coming in from Lebanon. Now, it’s not that this isn’t an impressive system in its own way, but the rockets being fired by Hezbollah are oftentimes garage projects.

And as such, you’re not talking about something that is particularly sophisticated or moving particularly quickly. Basically, what happens is the Israelis launch a lot of interceptors when a barrage is coming in, and they kind of loiter until they can lock onto a rocket, and then they zip down and hit it. But even if they miss, a lot of times these things have a very high dud rate.

Over a third of them probably don’t even explode when they do hit, and they have next to no guidance. In fact, most have had no guidance at all. So it’s good for what it is, but let’s not overplay it. Also, keep in mind that Israel is the size of New Jersey, and the northern border with Lebanon is very, very short.

So, from a technical point of view, it’s relatively easy to guard that sort of territory. The second system, second thing to know, is the ballistic defense system called the Arrow system. And it is significantly more sophisticated than what’s going on with Iron Dome. This was pulled into play to defend Israel against the ballistic attacks that came in from Iran last week.

Now, the problem here is in assessing how successful it is. We really don’t know, not because it hasn’t shot missiles down, but because it hasn’t done so alone. In the recent attacks from Iran, the United States has been there, present, shooting things down too, and linking the radars together. And we just don’t know how well the Israelis could do if it weren’t for American involvement in the defense.

It probably still is among the best in the world, but everything that has been thrown at it has already had to deal with the United States. Everything has basically been designed before the year 2000. You’re talking about missiles that are at least 20 years old, off of designs that are at least 30 years old. Calling it cutting-edge is probably the wrong phrase.

Again, this is a country the size of New Jersey. You don’t need a lot of arc of coverage in order to shield the whole thing. And even with those factors in play, a lot of the missiles still made it through. They didn’t cause any substantial damage, but that is a fault of the missiles, and maybe, perhaps deliberate targeting, avoiding civilian areas more than anything else.

And then the third and final thing to keep in mind is that, for the United States, this is a perfect layout. U.S. assistance with both of these defense systems, with the intent of then taking them, modifying them for our uses—whether in terms of deployment, theaters, or the homeland—and then scaling them up. And so, believe it or not, all of the ongoing agony and violence of the Middle East, in many ways, is providing the perfect testbed for missile defense for U.S. defense systems.

Okay, I’ve got to hit the beach today, but anyway, until that, bye.

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I know everyone wants constant updates on the upcoming US election, and if you haven’t figured this out by now, that’s not really my shtick. However, I will offer a couple factors that could influence the outcome of this election.

First, we’ve got the severe damage to infrastructure in the swing states of Georgia and western North Carolina caused by Hurricane Helene. While this might not seem like something that would impact the election, these highly Republican areas are sensitive to voter turnout, to the point where a few thousand votes could change the result.

The bigger factor to watch is organized labor and the business community. Neither of these factions are fully aligned with a major party, so that puts a lot of votes up in the air. Expect these factions to act as swing voters and introduce a hefty amount of volatility to the political landscape.

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Hey everybody. Peter Zeihan here, coming from Washington, D.C. That is the Rose Garden behind me at the White House. And of course, there’s a new layer of security that wasn’t here last time I was here, so you can’t see anything. So instead, we’re going to put the Treasury Department or ours. At least, it’s a, you know, pretty building.

Anyway, a lot of you have been asking me to give you an update on my assessment for the election, and I’m just not going to do that. I gave my assessment two years ago. It was based on structural factors, and those structural factors haven’t changed. And if you want a blow-by-blow of what’s going on precinct by precinct, I am not the guy to do the hot takes.

But I will tell you two things: one on a micro fact that is likely to impact this election, and the second one is on the broader trend that will affect future elections. So first, the micro effect. When Hurricane Helene rushed in from the Gulf, it did something that most hurricanes didn’t do and maintained significant strength even when it was a couple hundred miles inland.

Normally, when you have a storm surge on the tornadoes and the wind and the rain, you devastate an area of the coast. Then, when it’s time to pick up the pieces and repair the damage, the first thing you do is get the interstate corridors back up and running and then move on to the secondary roads. Most coastal regions, particularly in the Gulf, are pretty flat, so that’s not too hard to do.

The devastation can be immense, but once you get the road arteries back up and running, things aren’t so bad. But when you move inland and start hitting the Appalachians, you’re in a different situation. It’s not flat, and you don’t have a grid network for roads where they’re all over. You have very specific roads following very specific corridors.

And if you dump two feet of rain in those zones, the rain washes off the mountains, gets into the streams, and river levels can rise by 20-30 feet or more and wash everything away. That is exactly what happened in northern Georgia and western North Carolina. Now, in both cases, we’re looking at years before the physical infrastructure is repaired and probably more than another month before we even get a reasonable damage assessment.

And why that matters to this election specifically is that northern Georgia and western North Carolina are among the reddest of the red areas in the country. Both North Carolina and Georgia are swing states this time around. So, the idea that you can have several million voters, and have a few hundred thousand, who, for whatever reason, can’t vote because of physical infrastructure conditions, in races where just 10,000 votes might separate the winner from the loser—you can see how that can tilt the election pretty easily.

The second thing that’s longer term is what’s going on with organized labor and the business community because right now, neither of those factions are part of either major party. Donald Trump pushed the business community out of his coalition for being, from his point of view, unnecessarily disloyal.

And the unions are kind of in flux between the Democrats and the Republicans. They’ve got kind of a foot in both camps but are not really committed one way or the other. If you remember, the Teamsters President—big union in the United States—actually endorsed Trump live on stage at the Republican National Convention. And in the most recent court strike, the Biden administration refused to take a trust-busting action against the unions.

In an attempt to draw the unions back into the Democratic coalition, both factions are very much in play. This has never happened before in human history because these two factions, their arguments, and their compromises, form American economic policy. And the idea that one wouldn’t be part of one coalition or the other is strange, but both at the same time? Not reasonable. Not sustainable.

If you look at either the Trump administration or the Biden administration and wonder why their economic policy seems batshit crazy, that’s why. The people who have traditionally done the math as part of economic policy formation are not in the room. Now, this is, like I said, not sustainable. Sooner or later, one or both of these factions are going to either rejoin one or both of these coalitions or form their own, and we will have a reorganization of American politics.

Now, there’s nothing about this that is odd. We’ve done this five times in American history already. This will be the sixth reorganization, and it will form what will be known as the seventh party structure. But until that happens, both of these factions, arguably historically the most powerful factions on both sides, are in play. The business community has always been the backbone of the Republican coalition, and organized labor has always been the backbone of the Democratic coalition, or at least since the last reorganization.

So this will not last. But until such time as these factions are back as part of the political process, they are functionally swing voters. And that makes this election a lot more volatile than it would have otherwise been.

Okay, that’s it for now.

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Reports coming out of South Korea indicate that North Korean troops could be deploying to Russia. These reports are unconfirmed, but the South Koreans aren’t usually in the business of lying. So, what does this mean for the Ukraine War?

North Korea hasn’t seen combat in ages, so while they gain some field experience, the rest of the world will get a glimpse at their capabilities. If the artillery and missiles the North Koreans already sent to the Russians are any indicator, I wouldn’t expect much. This could also drag the South Koreans into the conflict on the Ukrainian side, which might outweigh what the North Korea brings to the table for Russia.

Speaking of dragging new players into the war, Iran’s involvement with Russia could get Israel involved as well. This would likely come in the form of Israeli attacks on Iranian facilities making drones, but with Israel being a leader in defense technology, this could be a game changer for the Ukrainians.

The Russians are showing their declining military capacity by grasping at straws trying to get the North Koreans and Iranians to save their asses, but that strategy may soon backfire.

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Hey everybody. Peter Zeihan here coming to you from Colorado. Today there’s some weird stuff going in in the news. We’ve got reports that North Korean troops, are in the process of deploying to Russia. Some technical advisers are already there providing the Russians with assistance on how to use North Korean weaponry system. But now we’ve got, open discussion in South Korea about, intercepts. 

From Point Yang, about, an actual troop deployment to maybe even fight on the front lines. Now, I don’t have any way to confirm this. I don’t have, my ear in the Korean dictator Kim Jong un’s, House or anything like that. But the South Koreans are not known for making stuff up. I mean, they’re known for. 

And they’re known for bulgogi and kimchi and soju and electronics and cellular technologies and computing and mass manufacturing and heavy drinking. But they’re not known to make shit up. So I’m taking this a little bit more seriously than I would any other random report. We don’t usually get a lot of fake noise out of Seoul. Anyway. Four big things come from this. 

Number one, the North Koreans have not been in a fight since 1953, so there is no living soldier in North Korea that is ever fired a rifle in anger. And getting any sort of information on how they might perform in real world circumstances would be an intelligence bonanza. Of course, it goes both ways. The North Koreans haven’t had been in a fight, so being able to see a front line, even if they’re not major combatants, is something that they could use for training purposes. 

But for the point of view of the United States and South Korea, this is going to be the best bit of information we’ve ever had, in the last 70 years. That will allow us to remap our war plans, for the Korean Peninsula, should anything go wrong. Having a more accurate view of your enemy is always the first step, to planning. 

The second big thing, North Korea is not the only country that is providing foreign assistance to the Russians. Specifically, they’re providing, ballistic missiles and artillery shells to the degree that maybe half of the artillery shells that have been used in Ukraine by the Russians this year are from North Korea. I mean, they’re crap. Probably half of them don’t work. 

And they’ve been blowing up more Russian artillery tubes than Ukrainian artillery tubes, because sometimes they blow up too soon. Anyway, they’re not the only ones. The Iranians are also involved with the Shaheed drones, which over which a thousand have been used at this point. Now, just as in with the North Korean situation, there’s an intelligence bonanza to be had here or a way to get information on the inside of the system. 

The Iranians, have recently launched a couple hundred ballistic missiles against Israel, and Israel is itching to respond, and they’ve basically already been given the green light, more or less, by the Biden administration to do so. The question is where, when and how? Well, if we now have the North Koreans intervening in the Ukraine war and we already have the Iranians intervening in the Ukraine war, then there’s an opportunity here for in exchange for the Biden administration, you know, kind of giving its blessing, to an Israeli retaliation attack on Iran. 

They might just add a couple target coordinates in order to get the facilities that make the shitty drones. Iran, like North Korea, is not exactly a technological leader, and the number of personnel that can put these things together is relatively limited. So if you were to take out a cluster of technical support, which the Russians desperately need, as well as the manufacturing facilities of which the Russians desperately need, you could as part of your retaliation attack, see Israel actually remove a huge source of military capability from the Russians in the Ukraine war. 

Also, keep in mind that the Russians are among the best in the world at assassination campaigns. And whenever an Iranian nuclear scientist gets a little bit too useful, they tend to meet a dire end. Just simply expanding that target set to include drone technicians is something the Israelis could do very, very, very easily. The third thing, as I mentioned, North Korea and Iran are not countries that I would mention as technological leaders and the fact that the Russians need them for half of their artillery shells and a substantial percentage of their drone warfare, that bodes really, really badly for the Russians ability to maintain this war long term. 

We already know that they’re only be able to make a double digits number of new tanks a year. They’re just really refurbishing their old ones. And if the technical skills within the military industrial complex of Russia are down to the degree that they’re this dependent on two fourth string countries, that would suggest as we move forward, they’re going to become wholly dependent upon imports of weapons. 

Well, that provides other opportunities for countries to choke the Russian war machine, because if the vulnerability isn’t in Siberia, if it’s inside this farm, that’s a lot easier to get to, especially if you’ve got countries like South Korea or Israel who are now involved. Which brings us to the fourth and final thing, South Korea, in Israel now involved, there’s a diplomatic angle here as well as a strategic angle. 

You have to consider both of these countries have been desperate to avoid Ukraine’s entreaties, and the United States requests to get involved in the conflict in any meaningful way, because they’ve got bigger security issues closer to home. That focus wholly on them. And they didn’t want the Russians stirring the pot in their own backyards. Well, now the Russians are stirring the pot in their own backyard, so they are involved. 

And so we’re seeing the political restrictions loosened in both Jerusalem and Seoul. And that can have a lot more impact than simply providing the Ukrainians with some technical help and some weapons systems. South Korea is one of the world’s five biggest arms exporters and produces regular things like artillery and rocket system and tanks that are not too far behind what comes out of Germany or France or the United States, but at a significantly lower price point. 

In fact, they’ve already signed a deal to provide the poles with over a thousand tanks and assorted systems. Providing that sort of assistance to Ukraine is obviously a no brainer. But when you look at a country like Israel that has under 10 million people and is in kind of a tough neighborhood, mass producing hardware quickly is something they cannot do. 

But the South Koreans can. And to flip the equation, the Israelis are the world leader or a world leader in anti-missile technologies and by far have the world’s best anti artillery and anti rocket technology and their Iron Dome system. Well, on day one of any theoretical Korean War, the North Korean is going to be lobbing all kinds of ammo into downtown Seoul. 

So if Israel can help out Korea with artillery and rocket defense, cooperation between these two countries changes the strategic calculus of both of them in a very positive way. And if you can take Israel’s technical acumen on some specific weapons systems and married to Korea’s ability to produce a lot of things very quickly, you can actually see that working out through the entire Western alliance system. 

So as I said several months ago, when the North Koreans started to get involved at Russian insistence, you know, this was probably one of the dumbest things that the Russians could do. I mean, yes, it gives them a tactical leg up in terms of ammo, but it risks bringing in a really important player. On the other side, and that’s South Korea. 

And now we’re looking at both Israel and South Korea being brought in at more or less the same time and being brought in together. And that changes a lot. 

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Impacts of an Israeli Strike on Iran’s Oil Sector

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Following my video on Iran’s attacks from the other day, I feel it necessary to explore the possibility of an Israeli strike on Iran’s oil sector and the affect it would have on global markets.

Iran’s oil exports hover around 1 million barrels per day. Thanks to sanctions, mismanagement, and maturing fields, production has taken a hit over the years. Regardless, that’s a million barrels per day that could vanish from the markets, which means a $10-15 increase per barrel on top of the “war premium”. Not a global catastrophe, but it will still hurt.

The US is fairly insulated from shocks to the global oil markets (like this one), so I’m not worried about the US. Should this get really bad, the US president can authorize a suspension of crude exports which would create a glut of oil in North America…similar to what we’ve seen with natural gas prices.

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Hey everybody, Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from the beautiful chaos that is Dallas Love Airport, headquarters of Southwest Airlines. In the aftermath of a video I recently did on the Israelis and their potential strike on Iran — specifically targeting the oil sector — I thought it would be worth noting how that could affect a few things, most notably here in the United States.

So, Iran’s oil production has been suffering for years. Part of it is due to sanctions, but mostly it’s because their regulatory regime is really punishing for would-be foreign investors. They basically require that the state take a leading role in everything, and the state company is not very good. Most of the oil fields in Khuzestan are mature and require a lot of technology that the Iranians don’t have and don’t understand in order to make them produce meaningfully.

Everything else worth having is offshore, but the Iranians have absolutely no ability to operate offshore by themselves. So while the numbers that officially hit the market ebb and flow because of the sanctions regime — and whether or not the Iranians are attempting to sneak around sanctions — the actual flow is about a million barrels per day of exports. Sometimes it’s as low as 400,000, sometimes it feels a little bit higher, but about a million. Now, if you remove a million barrels a day from the market, we’re going to feel it. But that’s only 1%, so you would expect, in a purely market-driven environment, for that to kick up prices by ten, maybe fifteen dollars a barrel. Of course, since it would be due to someone dropping a bomb on something, there would be a war premium on top of that.

The impact globally is going to be felt, it’s going to be real, but it’s not going to be huge. As for the United States, I’m really not concerned. The U.S. is no longer an energy importer. We’ve come a long way since 2007, when we were importing something like 14–15 million barrels a day, thanks to the shale revolution.

The United States is now arguably one of the lowest-cost producers in the world, and our production is well over 20 million barrels a day. Moreover, the U.S. has diversified its economic strength and is now absorbing far fewer barrels. Now, if you look at the headline numbers, you’re not going to see that, but that’s because the U.S. Energy Department calculates things differently from everyone else.

We look at the amount of crude we actually consume in total, including what goes into our refineries for products that are then exported. That’s not how most countries do it. The argument here is that nobody consumes raw crude; it has to be turned into something. So, it’s not a stupid way to look at the data, but it does make it seem like we are more dependent on international trade than we actually are.

In fact, if you consider all the types of crude that the U.S. produces — raw crude, natural gas liquids, condensates — we now have such a huge surplus that by the end of this year, the U.S. will be exporting 5 million barrels a day of roughly defined product. In the history of the petroleum era, there are only three countries that have ever produced more than 5 million barrels per day of raw crude, and we’re exporting that much in refined product.

So, the degree to which the United States is insulated from this is robust. Now, do keep in mind that oil is an internationally traded product, and so there is more or less a single global oil price point because it is an easily exchanged commodity. But if we ever get to the point that there is an oil shock — I don’t think that will happen with Iran — but if we do, and prices get to a point that the American president finds untenable, the U.S. president, courtesy of powers granted back in 2015, has the authority to summarily suspend all exports of raw crude. And we do a lot of that too. If that happens, the crude gets trapped within North America.

We get a supersaturated energy market, and then North American energy prices separate from global energy prices in a manner very similar to what has already happened with natural gas prices. U.S. natural gas prices, because of a similar glut in natural gas, are as a rule one-fourth to one-eighth what they are in Europe or Asia. So if we ever do get into a situation where crude prices get sketchy, you can count on the American president — whoever it happens to be — to enact that power.

Then, all of a sudden, we’ve got energy prices here that rarely go above $60, because every shale oil field we have is cost-competitive at that price, while everyone else screams past $100 on their way to $200 and more.

Okay, that’s it for me. Of course, the biggest downside of being here is that, because Southwest is a hub and it’s open seating, you have to check in 24 hours online in order to get a decent seat. And because I was launching this new thing called Patreon 24 hours ago, I forgot. So I am C-51. I will be the sad person up against the bathroom, trying to squeeze this lengthy, 6-foot-5 frame into a middle seat that does not recline. Pray for me.

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The Russians are kind of like the Hydra from Greek mythology – that’s the creature that grows two heads every time you cut one off, for those who have been out of 5th grade for a bit – but the most recent round of sanctions might be the cauterizing torch needed to stop the Russians from bouncing back this time.

Sanctions are not a new strategy to fight the Russians; the US and the Europeans have used them to cut off access to dollar/euro liquidity since the dawn of the Ukraine War. While this shut the Russians down for a bit, the Chinese stepped in and provided yuan liquidity to help circumvent those Western sanctions.

On October 12, the exemption allowing Chinese yuan to help the Russians will expire. Any Chinese institutions that continue working with the Russians will risk losing access to dollar liquidity, which would be devastating for the Chinese economy. The removal of the yuan will limit Russian trade and global economic activity and I would expect most Russian industries to take a big hit, except for those producing military parts and equipment.

We’re entering unprecedented territory here. No country of Russia’s scale has been cut off from global liquidity, so the outcome is up in the air. However, the next round of sanctions could very well decimate the Russian economy.

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Hey everyone, Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from the South Carolina coast. And since we’re on a beach, we have to talk about finance. Yeah. We’re about to get something really interesting happening in Russia with the sanctions. Now, first, the backstory: if you remember a few months back, the United States restricted dollar liquidity, and the Europeans restricted euro liquidity, which is a fancy way of saying that if you are a Russian entity, you can no longer access the currencies. Liquidity is basically the lubricating oil that allows everything to move, allowing any sort of financial institution to get temporary loans to smooth over operations.

The sanctions essentially shut down the Moscow Stock Exchange because, without currency to constantly churn through, any sort of international exchange becomes impossible. Keep in mind that, especially for the U.S. dollar, it’s the intermediary in all foreign trade. So when the United States said, “Nope, you’re out,” the Russians had to find other ways to do things. In the meantime, that shut down a lot of operations. So the exchange itself actually closed down for a while.

Anyway, what happened was the Chinese stepped into that role with yuan, essentially introducing an extra step and an extra cost, but allowing operations to begin again. The problem is that on October 12th, the exemption for the Chinese runs out. Basically, in order to ensure there was less of a shock to the global system, during the first phase of the sanctions, the Russians were denied access to liquidity. Now, in the second phase, anyone dealing with the Russians will be denied access to this liquidity as well.

For the last few months, the Chinese, who have dollar liquidity, have been providing yuan to the Russians. That will now be removed, or the Chinese companies and banks — all of which are state-owned — will lose access to dollar liquidity. Since the Chinese economy is roughly nine times the size of the Russian economy, every Chinese financial institution has far more exposure to the global system and the American economy than to the Russians. So, essentially, all this U.S. dollar liquidity is going to go away overnight. We’re going to see another seizing effect in the Russian system. Pretty much any company that uses parts or sells any commodity or product on the international system — which is, you know, 80% of them — is going to be out of luck.

There will be some exceptions. The Russian government has picked up a lot of yuan over the last couple of years because they’re trying to limit their exposure to everything else, so they have sufficient currency reserves to provide limited supply to limited companies. But almost all of that is going to the companies that have to import parts for weapons systems. So you’re looking at maybe 20 to 30% of the Russian companies that need this liquidity being able to get some of it in order to keep weapons manufacturers running. Because, as we’ve seen in this war, Russia’s technical skills have suffered greatly.

Probably half of their parts are coming from China, and about 10 to 20% are coming from the West. All of that requires currency liquidity. So the companies involved in those trades and in that manufacturing will still be able to get yuan from the central government and use that to access international systems. But everyone else is going to be high and dry.

Textbooks tell us that this shift to a more autarkic model is going to completely devastate any sort of economic flexibility. Everything from payroll to sourcing is going to be almost impossible. The problem with that confidence is that we’ve never had anyone of note get cut off to this degree before. In past times when the United States has done something like this, it’s been to a country like Iran, where, let’s just say, manufacturing and international trade are not something they’re really good at, at least not in this millennium.

And there wasn’t a secondary level, so rubles or yuan or euros or whatever could still be used to get in through the back door. This is much more airtight. On the 12th, we’re going to find out exactly what effect this has. Based on its effectiveness, we’ll know exactly what the next round of sanctions will be.

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Russia has attacked three civilian ships carrying grain in Ukraine’s southwest maritime corridor. This marks Russia’s first major attack on commercial shipping, and a significant escalation of this war.

Ukraine doesn’t have too many options for getting its grain out, so they rely heavily on sea transport. Since the collapse of a political deal with Russia that allowed grain shipments to get through, the Ukrainians have created a corridor through Romanian and Bulgarian waters; however, the Russians most recent strike might put an end to that.

We will likely see disruptions to global food supplies and further complications with maritime insurance…which makes sense, as the potential loss of three ships is no small setback. This situation is evolving rapidly and I will continue to update as news comes out.

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Transcript

Hey everybody, Peter Zeihan here, coming to you from Colorado with just a quick update. It’s the 10th of October and we just got confirmation that the Russians are attacking civilian shipping with international flags in a corridor to the southwest of Ukraine, ships primarily carrying grain. We have been very, very fortunate in the conflict so far that we haven’t had a food crisis. 

At the very beginning of the war, when the Russians were blockading the entirety of Ukraine’s Black Sea coast, we basically had 3 or 4% of global food production fall off market overnight with no replacement. And food prices quickly rose to, recent record highs, the highest we’ve had in 15 years. Since then, we had a political deal between Russia and Ukraine to allow ships to come and go in order to pick up foodstuffs. 

And after that deal collapsed a year later, we then last year had the Ukrainians open up their own grain corridor, which went west from Odessa into Romanian Bulgarian waters, where Russian ships wouldn’t dare go. But there was still that thin sliver of territory between Odessa and the maritime border with Romania that was in Ukrainian space, where there was always a concern that the Russians would strike. 

And now they have right now only three ships. Right now only three attacks. Right now, no ships have been sunk. But this would be the first time in the war in a meaningful way that the Russians have actually gone after commercial shipping. They have a couple things to keep in mind. Number one, Ukraine does not really have a very good way to get grain out by rail. 

All the countries that border it to the west are also agricultural exporters. So even if there wasn’t a political complication and there are, these are markets that couldn’t absorb it. So you need to go several hundred miles further in order to get to ports in, say, Germany or Croatia in order to get the grain out. And those ports are already being used by other exporters. 

So, you get snarled in addition to the fact that the rail lines are insufficient to the task, in addition to the fact that they use a different rail gauge. So really it’s by sea or really not at all. Second, while we have had some changes in the insurance regime of maritime shipping in the last several years, the still the bottom line is we haven’t really lost a insured ship in the Ukraine war yet, and we don’t know how insurers are going to adjust policies. 

If you would ask me, before the war started, it would have been pretty dramatic where we had a loss of shipping like 25 years. And so if a ship had been taken down that had a policy, basically no one would be able to offer a policy anymore. And all ships would be completely uninsured in the area. That assumes there’s not a cascade through the financial system. 

Now that they’ve had a couple of years to kind of prepare for this moment, we really don’t know what companies like Lloyd’s of London are going to do, but we’re going to find out really, really fast. So stay tuned. And if this gets bigger than it is right now, I’ll definitely be telling you more.